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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14565 on: July 03, 2017, 01:59:51 am »

PC Gamer article about an algorithm that searches for Steam's best hidden gems:
http://www.pcgamer.com/this-algorithm-picks-out-steams-best-hidden-gems/

Might be useful if someone wants to try something new/different.
Neat. Idea if not the list itself, mind, since as near as I can tell everything mentioned in the article I'm interested in I either already knew about or have, heh.

Kinda' makes me wonder if someone's done an algo checking average review length or somethin', though. Word count per review, difference from an average taken of various benchmark lists, junk like that. See what stuff out there has the most effort put into their review blurbs. Be an interesting way to measure investment. Something like hours played per review or purchase might give results worth eyeballing, too.
I don't like hours played as a measure of review.

What you see a lot of times with poorly designed MP games is that you get this crowd with 400+ hours that's great at melting everyone's face, but no one else wants to play with them.  So they end up as overly loud defenders blind to the game's faults.  King Arthur's Gold was like that on the patch I played.  The game was all about knights beating each other up and the other classes were helpless, but knight v knight was super dependent on internet connection.  And so you had this crowd of pubstomping knights with low ping furiously defending the game across the internet because all the other players were leaving and there were less and less pubs to stomp.
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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14566 on: July 03, 2017, 04:25:11 am »

I take steam reviews with a mine of salt most of the time. I've seen far, FAR too many people who were absolute experts on a game after playing it 7 minutes and stalking off to whine over it.
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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14567 on: July 03, 2017, 10:20:15 am »

PC Gamer article about an algorithm that searches for Steam's best hidden gems:
http://www.pcgamer.com/this-algorithm-picks-out-steams-best-hidden-gems/

Might be useful if someone wants to try something new/different.
Neat. Idea if not the list itself, mind, since as near as I can tell everything mentioned in the article I'm interested in I either already knew about or have, heh.

Kinda' makes me wonder if someone's done an algo checking average review length or somethin', though. Word count per review, difference from an average taken of various benchmark lists, junk like that. See what stuff out there has the most effort put into their review blurbs. Be an interesting way to measure investment. Something like hours played per review or purchase might give results worth eyeballing, too.
I don't like hours played as a measure of review.

What you see a lot of times with poorly designed MP games is that you get this crowd with 400+ hours that's great at melting everyone's face, but no one else wants to play with them.  So they end up as overly loud defenders blind to the game's faults.  King Arthur's Gold was like that on the patch I played.  The game was all about knights beating each other up and the other classes were helpless, but knight v knight was super dependent on internet connection.  And so you had this crowd of pubstomping knights with low ping furiously defending the game across the internet because all the other players were leaving and there were less and less pubs to stomp.

Speaking as a nearly pure archer player, KAG was goddamn amazing. Up until the more recent round of changes, those made it a lot less fun all around despite having more options.

The satisfaction of threading the needle through tiny gaps and correctly calculating those long high-angle shots to hit people and catapults past high defensive towers, tree-hopping back and forth while plinking knights that were trying to chop you down, daring escapes with arrow ladders shot into walls, forward skirmishing to bait enemy knights out of position, sniper duels with good enemy archers, all that stuff was so much fun. I played a little builder too, and that was tremendous fun, setting up absolutely evil traps and sneaking past enemy knights to undermine towers. Knight was honestly boring, all binary (good ping=successful, bad ping=either failure or lagmaster supreme), and not that complex.
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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14568 on: July 03, 2017, 12:26:49 pm »

I don't like hours played as a measure of review.
Which is why it'd be per review (as in, total number of hours across every user tracked, not just those reviewing) or along those lines, not total hours invested by the userbase or whatev'. It's not supposed to be a metric of anything resembling worth, just looking for outliers on a user/playing scale, or (in the case of the word count thing) individual investment in review. Things with abnormal stats on stuff like that. It would indeed spit out passive stuff or things folks leave on in the background for whatever reason or any number of other things that mean little, but... that's fine. You'd just be using it to check for oddities, after which you can filter for your own preferences.

Basically, it'd be neat to see if the amount of time the userbase as a whole plays before someone reviews, or the amount of (lazily measured) effort any particular reviewer is putting into their spiel, is out of whack (either way, mind you) for whatever reason. If you're already doing stuff like the mentioned article did, not much reason save the effort to not plug in a bunch of other variables and see what pops out, y'know?
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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14569 on: July 03, 2017, 07:06:38 pm »

Data is neat, yeah, and it's hard to tell what is or isn't useful or interesting until you look at it.
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« Reply #14570 on: July 05, 2017, 04:50:42 am »

They just announced Evil Genius 2

If you play DF and haven't played Evil Genius, it's a must. €2.5 on Steam
The research system in there is pretty good.
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« Reply #14571 on: July 05, 2017, 06:58:58 am »

Awesome. Great game. A bit grindy at points, but great game.
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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14572 on: July 05, 2017, 11:19:01 am »

They just announced Evil Genius 2

If you play DF and haven't played Evil Genius, it's a must. €2.5 on Steam
The research system in there is pretty good.
It actually happened?

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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14573 on: July 06, 2017, 07:45:37 am »

EDIT: PLEASE NEVERMIND THIS (I posted it on the wrong place thanks to being sleepy)
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Re: SALES Thread: SUMMER SALES 2017 STICKERS GALORE
« Reply #14574 on: July 06, 2017, 09:01:55 am »

EDIT: PLEASE NEVERMIND THIS (I posted it on the wrong place thanks to being sleepy)
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« Reply #14575 on: July 06, 2017, 02:19:39 pm »

In response to the pricing fiasco Paradox did awhile back, they're offering a free game or two pieces of DLC to anyone who bought their stuff (non-USD) since May 17: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/pricing-change-rollback-information-thread-latest-news-here.1031635/

The thread has info on how to claim your stuff if you did buy anything.

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Re: SALES Thread: GOG, Steam, Humble, your mom has games to buy
« Reply #14576 on: July 06, 2017, 04:05:15 pm »

In response to the pricing fiasco Paradox did awhile back, they're offering a free game or two pieces of DLC to anyone who bought their stuff (non-USD) since May 17: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/pricing-change-rollback-information-thread-latest-news-here.1031635/

The thread has info on how to claim your stuff if you did buy anything.
Its worth noting that that offer does not apply to purchases made with US dollars.
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« Reply #14577 on: July 06, 2017, 04:11:00 pm »

In response to the pricing fiasco Paradox did awhile back, they're offering a free game or two pieces of DLC to anyone who bought their stuff (non-USD) since May 17: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/pricing-change-rollback-information-thread-latest-news-here.1031635/

The thread has info on how to claim your stuff if you did buy anything.
Its worth noting that that offer does not apply to purchases made with US dollars.
This is apparently because prices in USD were not changed, so there's nothing to really refund.
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Re: SALES Thread: GOG, Steam, Humble, your mom has games to buy
« Reply #14578 on: July 06, 2017, 04:16:47 pm »

Correct, I just wanted to spare anyone who uses USD the confusion of thinking this was universal.
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Re: SALES Thread: GOG, Steam, Humble, your mom has games to buy
« Reply #14579 on: July 06, 2017, 08:04:55 pm »

This is apparently because prices in USD were not changed, so there's nothing to really refund.
Well that's simply not true. They, along with many other publishers, alter their catalog prices when a sale begins. Any number of price history sites will confirm this. Good on Paradox for attempting to make amends, but it's both a half-measure, and deceptive of them to claim otherwise. (First Google Hit)
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