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[Nighthawk]

Yeah, I'm afraid you're preaching to the choir. The folks over at Valve don't seem interested in dropping cash (regardless of how little it will affect their massive paychecks) to buff the servers for relatively brief outages at the start of each big sale, especially when things continue to work fine on regular days. They ought to, but they won't.

[Il Palazzo]

'Once or twice a year I have to wait an hour or two to buy my entertainment'
#first world problems.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

'Once or twice a year I have to wait an hour or two to buy my entertainment'
#first world problems.

pretty much.

[NullForceOmega]

If I feel like bitching about Steam being self absorbed money-grubbing douches that's my prerogative.  They may already be the industry leaders, but that doesn't mean that people have to put up with their shit.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

If I feel like bitching about Steam being self absorbed money-grubbing douches that's my prerogative.  They may already be the industry leaders, but that doesn't mean that people have to put up with their shit.

I mean it's your deal man, but honestly? Steam is pretty fuckin lit. What shit do people have to put up with? I've basically never had a bad experience with Steam, they've even been extremely fast to refund my purchases when i've decided I've made a wrong buy.

[NullForceOmega]

Steam does do certain things well, the refund system is a good example, but that only makes the things they do poorly look even worse, like Greenlight's cottage industry built around the trading card system (which will hopefully be going extinct soon).  Their complete lack of quality control and insistence that they aren't responsible for the products they're selling.  And with just a few moments of digging I KNOW I could find any number of issues.

I don't particularly want to use Steam for anything, but I do want to play games, and that increasingly means being tied to Valve's platform, so if I am going to have to use their service for the things I want to do, then I would like that service to be GOOD at it's basic job, not good at a few things and mediocre to shit at everything else.

[Sanctume]

I want to know what are the best deals to take now that are on sale.

Granted, I have to spend time reading reviews of the type of games I might like. 

I did pick up quite  few games in the past 3 sales, and I played most, but some are just maybe less than 4 hours played when I went to play something else.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

@NullForceOmega,

But it IS good at it's BASIC JOB, which is selling you games and keeping them organized for you. They're easy to launch and most of them are DRM free. Sooooo... it seems like your mad about something else. I can understand frustration over server lag during the Summer Sale, but that would be like getting mad at Walmart for not spending bucketloads of cash to expand their facilities immensely for a few days a year--it's just not worth it for either party.

Greenlight's a mess, but then I never understood why people bought and traded Steam Trading Cards to begin with? And to be fair, Steam is essentially just a digital marketplace, no one is forcing you to buy shitty games.

As for being tied to Steam, it seems like you can get most games available on Steam elsewhere these days. So I don't know what you're on about.

@Sanctume,

TW: Warhammer is 66% off which is pretty lit. FM17 is 66% off if you're into that. Tyranny 50%, Torment: Tides of Numeria 50%, Witcher 3 40%, Darkest Dungeon 60%, GTAV 50%, Bloodbowl 2 66%, CIV6 40%, Stardew Valley 40%, Valve Complete Pack 92%.

[NullForceOmega]

Urist McScoopbeard:  Buy them elsewhere yes, but the vast majority of what you are buying is still just a Steam key, that then requires you to use Steam to actually play the game.  And it isn't even remotely 'good' at it's basic job, the Storefront is a joke, searching for specific titles presents you with one of the most difficult to read lists of direct and tangentially related items, it mixes DLC with core games and movies and the stupid tag system barely functions.  There are so very, very many problems with Steam that I actually cannot conceive of an effective way to detail them without going into a pages long dissertation on them.

But it does do a good job of keeping the games you have in your library sorted, no argument there.  Actually, the library is by far the single best implemented portion of the client, it does its work incredibly and I have no complaints with it.

Regarding your comparison, Walmarts are already built to function way past their expected usage, or have you never walked into one and wondered why more than half of their checkout lanes are always closed (caveat: I have no idea where you live and it is entirely possible that your local Walmart is substantially smaller or busier than the majority of those that I have seen)?  Not really a good example there.

And I'm not mad, just irritated, they have the resources at their disposal to make this a non-issue, and they won't because it would ever so slightly cut into their profits.  That mentality is very much one of my peeves with corporate (and to a larger extent capitalist) culture.

[Il Palazzo]

There are so many things wrong with the booze store I buy from, I actually cannot conceive of an effective way to detail them without going into a pages long dissertation on them. Yes, they have the best choice of ales on the planet, and they're practically next door, no argument there. But the beer they sell is 0.5 degrees Celsius too warm, it takes me in excess of 5 seconds (!) to find the lager I want in their disorganised fridges, their regional ales section is using this dumb bottle recycling system, and each time they put up a discount, the queue is, like, 3 people long. Why can't they hire another cashier?

Oh, man, this is fun. Let's bitch some more about stuff. Pizza, maybe? The complimentary ketchup I get from the parlour down the street is kinda bland. This doesn't make me mad, you know. It just irritates me almost as much as people bitching about their privileged lives.
Get some perspective.

[NullForceOmega]

That remark is incredibly ironic considering where you are placing it right now.  I can discuss whatever I like, and you have no say in it, at all.

[Sirus]

Can we fucking not.

[Twinwolf]

Back on topic - a bit disappointed at the minimal sales on CK2 and Stellaris DLC. Hollow Knight's a bit cheaper and I have heard nothing but praise. Transistor's 2 bucks and I've heard about that before. And as mentioned, Total War: Warhammer is on sale. My poor, poor wallet.

[umiman]

That remark is incredibly ironic considering where you are placing it right now.  I can discuss whatever I like, and you have no say in it, at all.

This is the SALES thread. It's for discussion SALES. The Steam summer sale just goddamn started.

Go away.

[NullForceOmega]

This is the SALES thread. It's for discussion SALES. The Steam summer sale just goddamn started.

Go away.

I said something about the fact that Steam's storefront is barely functioning, which is directly related due to the Summer Sale, and a different person entirely decided to make it about #firstworldproblems, and I'm the one who needs to go away?

How about no.

Edit: In deference to the stated rules of the OP, I will refrain from further comment about Steam beyond it's relevance to sales.