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[Sergius]

Nope, but apparently I had the exact amount in my Paypal from a refund I got for an old hosting service I had and cancelled 3 months ago and forgot to disable the autopayment thingy. So... free games!

Considering that it was your money anyway... it's not free.

Free games FREE FREE FREE!

[Mephisto]

Today. The Guild 2 Collection. $5.

I know it was mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but I seem to recall someone saying that only Renaissance was worth it. That being said, the Steam forums say that Renaissance doesn't come with a campaign or tutorials.

What does Bay12 recommend? I know the Guild games are well-liked and I've put many hours into The Guild 1400.

[Criptfeind]

It's a piece of shite. But if you can get past that it is actually quite good. I like it.

[Felius]

It's a piece of shite. But if you can get past that it is actually quite good. I like it.

An actually pretty good piece of shite? 

* Felius is confused

[nenjin]

I think that's the definition of a love/hate relationship.

[Sowelu]

What the hell does The Guild 2 even play like?  It's got a bullshit trailer and screenshots that don't show any of the game interface whatsoever.  I hate screenshots like that.  Fine, it's pretty, I don't care.

Can someone give me a "one hour in the life of a Guild 2 player" summary?

[Mephisto]

Can someone give me a "one hour in the life of a Guild 2 player" summary?

Take control of a poor citizen of the town of your choice. Build places of business and manage those businesses. Court other citizens and increase your title in order to improve your dynasty and increase your options.

There are four classes: rogue, scholar, craftsman, and patron. Each gets a different set of buildings it can build. Rogue and craftsman are mostly self-explanatory. Scholar buildings are things like an apothecary, wizard's tower, etc. Patron buildings are inns and stuff like that.

Look at my most recent game. I started as a Rogue. I had a pub built. While it was being built, I went to the market to pickpocket everybody. When my pub was done, I sent my wagon to the market to get some meat and beer, which I then began to sell in said pub. Then I cased a neighboring establishment. While trying a daring heist at high noon, I got noticed by a guard and had my ass promptly handed to me.

[jester]

You can also do fun stuff like get yourself into high office as torturer using bribery and blackmail, then have your enemies arrested and tortured without charge.  It is one of those games that is brilliant in alot of regards but broken in alot of others, eg enemy ai families will often commit suicide for no apparent reason, pickpockets are basically free money, its entirely likely that one of your family will catch, say plague which your town doesnt have any cures for. 

It's a piece of shite. But if you can get past that it is actually quite good. I like it.

Ill back this up, and also, for the 5 bucks its going to cost me, im buying it.

[Mephisto]

If the "piece of shite" business is because of bugs and crashes, there's a beta patch over here.

[Knight of Fools]

Figures. I bought this game for full price not too long ago, and now it's on sale. 

It's not a bad game, though I certainly can't go around lauding its innumerable virtues. It tickles a certain itch, but gets old pretty fast, since it's a slow grind once you've gotten to a certain point. The mid-game is almost terrible, because there's nowhere to expand because all of the land's been taken. Rogues are basically useless beyond prostitution and pick pocketing, too, which is disappointing.

You can garner favor to gain political office, spy on people to get evidence against them and bring them to court, and own a number of buildings to follow through your various ends. Hire employees, get married, sire children, and keep your dynasty running and profitable.

Think the Sims meets Age of Empires meets Pizza Tycoon meets Political Intrigue.

I give it a C for being charming in its own way and worth taking for a spin if you're into the genre. If you wanted to pick it up, you might as well get all of them so you can play the tutorial in the first one, but beyond that only Renaissance is worth playing extensively.

[Sowelu]

I decided not to get gelato today, specifically so I could save money and maybe get a game sometime.  I treat on-sale games like an equivalent value of movie rentals; if they entertain me for a few hours, I'm happy.  Ten bucks and up, and I'd better get good memories equivalent to going out to see a movie: Even if it's not all that replayable, as long as it succeeds in that goal I'm content.

So for this price, good enough for me.

[Criptfeind]

Rogues are basically useless beyond prostitution and pick pocketing, too, which is disappointing.

Do you mean Rogues as in being that class? Because, if so, I must disagree with you. I can't speak to how profitable it is to try to play a highway man or something, but a few trained warriors can take over a building with relative ease, even more so in the early game. It can be very profitable to send a few rogues to bomb the local mines until you can take them over.

That said, I always have Patron as my starting guy or gal, they get the most profitable businesses that don't need a lot of micromanagement or whatever at the start, then I marry a craftsperson or scholar most of the time and upgrade my house all I can (maybe even buy another) so I have my own personal army (at the start of the game you can make a ton of cash just sending a guy to a trade post to pick up some exotic goods to sell in town).

[Micro102]

I find that my highway rouges never seem to grab carts. At least not as much as they should. They just stay at their stations, watching them pass by.

[lordcooper]

It's worth pointing out that people could just buy Renaissance and then download the demo for one of the other versions to play the tutorials.

[Sergius]

Ok so, I'm following the tutorial, they tell me to build a foundry. Problem is, someone plopped a public bath in the only spot available, so now I have nowhere to build.

Sure, I could restart that tutorial but seems like a huge oversight to me.

EDIT: Nevermind, I thought I had to build in or around town, but I just had to go further away from it.