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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6075 on: August 24, 2013, 12:12:25 am »

Don't Starve is 50% off.

How have we ended up feeling about this, in the long run?

... mmmmeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I don't find it terribly entertaining, personally. Then again, I don't find Minecraft or Terraria entertaining playing them alone, either. I think my interest is just too flighty to get into it.

I have it and I'm really not too thrilled. It feels grindy and it has permadeath. Bad combination, in my opinion. Progression seems slow, but I'm not that great at the game either. The art style is cool, but the gameplay is meh.

This is a bit of a problem with "Don't Starve". The game looks neat, and it is interesting to explore what with all the items to craft. I've found it difficult to play much of however because it's difficult to escape from the routine you need to go through at the beginning of each game. Cut trees down, collect sticks, grass, flint, make pick, get stone.

It's like... death is nearly inevitable so you'll have to go through all of it again when you die, and it can take a while to set everything up.
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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6076 on: August 24, 2013, 12:46:09 am »

I've played a bit of Tactics and it weird.  I'll leave it at that.

I should probably explain in case someone is on the fence or hasn't played Tactics. It's a squad-based tactical game with the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system from Fallout 1 and 2, with persistent squaddies and controllable vehicles. The story follows a mostly-fictional branch of Brotherhood of Steel outcasts who took zeppelins on a trip east and crashed in the midwestern US due to a storm. They recruit ghouls, mutants, and cyborgs.

The creators and Avellone openly admit it's non-canon. If you treat it as a tactics game that uses the Fallout system and leave it at that, it's a fun game. If you have an existential panic that there's Fallout in the title and it doesn't match up with 1 and 2, your knickers will go all atwist and you won't enjoy it. That's the long and short of it. (Disclaimer: that was tongue-in-cheek.)
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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6077 on: August 24, 2013, 12:59:34 am »

I've played a bit of Tactics and it weird.  I'll leave it at that.

I should probably explain in case someone is on the fence or hasn't played Tactics. It's a squad-based tactical game with the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system from Fallout 1 and 2, with persistent squaddies and controllable vehicles. The story follows a mostly-fictional branch of Brotherhood of Steel outcasts who took zeppelins on a trip east and crashed in the midwestern US due to a storm. They recruit ghouls, mutants, and cyborgs.

The creators and Avellone openly admit it's non-canon. If you treat it as a tactics game that uses the Fallout system and leave it at that, it's a fun game. If you have an existential panic that there's Fallout in the title and it doesn't match up with 1 and 2, your knickers will go all atwist and you won't enjoy it. That's the long and short of it. (Disclaimer: that was tongue-in-cheek.)
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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6078 on: August 24, 2013, 01:14:14 am »


I have it and I'm really not too thrilled. It feels grindy and it has permadeath. Bad combination, in my opinion. Progression seems slow, but I'm not that great at the game either. The art style is cool, but the gameplay is meh.

This is a bit of a problem with "Don't Starve". The game looks neat, and it is interesting to explore what with all the items to craft. I've found it difficult to play much of however because it's difficult to escape from the routine you need to go through at the beginning of each game. Cut trees down, collect sticks, grass, flint, make pick, get stone.

It's like... death is nearly inevitable so you'll have to go through all of it again when you die, and it can take a while to set everything up.

If there was an option to avoid losing everything, even if you still retain mild to severe penalties for death, then I would certainly play and enjoy it more, especially since, IIRC, there's an actual storyline and plot that's hidden in the game.
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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6079 on: August 24, 2013, 03:12:57 am »

Fallout Tactics is really good as a strategy game. Seriously. Back in the day it made me wish the combat in Fallout 2 had the same depth as Tactics did.

I don't know how non-canon the entire story is. Everyone says something different. And IIRC I've seen very minor references to the events from Tactics in New Vegas. I don't think the story even matters personally as it takes place on the completely other side of the country and it's unlikely we'll ever venture there again in the Fallout series.

The actual story in Tactics is not bad though, quite entertaining. There's not much of it, but it's enough to hold the combat together.

I recommend it. Just for the combat alone it's really fun.

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« Reply #6080 on: August 24, 2013, 04:07:56 am »

It's highly heretical but I always found Tactics and New Vegas the only games in the Fallout series that I enjoy.
 
While the storyline and characters in the first two Fallout games were really good, the god awful and slow combat turned me completely off it. Coupled that with a terrible clunky UI and rather dated graphics. It's rather hard for a person who didn't grow up with the games to get invested. 
While I want to play Fallout for the characters and world I found the gameplay just too grating and getting in the way too much. That said I could just be because I tend to prefer realtime/pseudo-realtime-pausable combat over turn based.

Tactics on the other hand has the best combat in the pre-FPS generation which makes up for pretty much all the short comings in the storyline. Sure the world feels a lot less like Fallout and more like Mad Max but it seemed to worked for the gameplay.
I did find that low level play seemed to be a little bit more tactical than higher level when you get all the crazy weapons/perks and have to mow down deathclaws and robots, I much prefered the early rifle crawls, shotgun storming and sneaking grenade throws.
Also while I was never a fan of the Brotherhood of Steel it was nice to see them being painted in a much worse light than the previous stories. Those xenophobic technology hoarders can go and plasma themselves as far as I'm concerned.

Fallout 3 was the typical Bethesda mess and isn't worth discussing.

Fallout New Vegas had a nice expanded world and although the combat was improved over FO3 it didn't hurt to install a couple combat rebalance mods. I still rate it as the best Fallout game even if the combat doesn't resemble the originals. World was fleshed out, some decent themes were explored and the storyline was nicely constructed with nothing too crazy going on. Obsidian is a highly underrated studio who just need a single publisher to not rush one of their games so they can finally get over the finishing mark and make a masterpiece, FO:NV and KOTOR II were sooo close.
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« Reply #6081 on: August 24, 2013, 09:19:25 am »

Anyone know how Steam Games go with nation restrictions, such as this BS going on with us Aussies when it comes to Saints Row IV...
Am I able to get the American/European Release where there is no censorship with the Alien Prob/Alien Drugs crap via Gifting???
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« Reply #6082 on: August 24, 2013, 11:30:21 am »

Yes. This was also the case with other games such as Left 4 Dead 2 which I own a fully uncensored NA version.

There are however a few games that are region locked. The almost absolute majority of the region locking is done on Russian releases to stop people buying games from Russia for cheap and creating a "gray market".
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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6083 on: August 25, 2013, 11:30:48 pm »

So who is up for getting me Saints Row 4???
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« Reply #6084 on: August 25, 2013, 11:36:16 pm »

Am I able to get the American/European Release where there is no censorship with the Alien Prob/Alien Drugs crap via Gifting???
Now that I've googled this,
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As a result of the delay All Interactive Entertainment has offered gamers who free pre-order and pick up the game 48 hours after launch a free Presidential Pack DLC code in an attempt to make things right. The Presidential Pack contains multiple different President outfits, allowing players to dress as some of America’s most famous Presidents.
What good compensation for Australian gamers.
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« Reply #6085 on: August 26, 2013, 12:25:15 am »

So who is up for getting me Saints Row 4???
These people are willing to help, somewhat.

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« Reply #6086 on: August 26, 2013, 01:16:23 am »

Am I able to get the American/European Release where there is no censorship with the Alien Prob/Alien Drugs crap via Gifting???
Now that I've googled this,
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As a result of the delay All Interactive Entertainment has offered gamers who free pre-order and pick up the game 48 hours after launch a free Presidential Pack DLC code in an attempt to make things right. The Presidential Pack contains multiple different President outfits, allowing players to dress as some of America’s most famous Presidents.
What good compensation for Australian gamers.

Well... the game is about being the American president. I don't think I'd want to roleplay as one of our prime ministers, though maybe fighting off aliens in a virtual reality would be a good setting for Holt. :P
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« Reply #6087 on: August 26, 2013, 04:36:41 am »

Well... the game is about being the American president. I don't think I'd want to roleplay as one of our prime ministers, though maybe fighting off aliens in a virtual reality would be a good setting for Holt. :P

I'd play as Mr Abbott. In a Speedo.
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Re: Steam Sales
« Reply #6088 on: August 26, 2013, 07:52:36 am »

Am I able to get the American/European Release where there is no censorship with the Alien Prob/Alien Drugs crap via Gifting???
Now that I've googled this,
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As a result of the delay All Interactive Entertainment has offered gamers who free pre-order and pick up the game 48 hours after launch a free Presidential Pack DLC code in an attempt to make things right. The Presidential Pack contains multiple different President outfits, allowing players to dress as some of America’s most famous Presidents.
What good compensation for Australian gamers.
Not sure what else you expected out of an American game. Should the game autodetect your culture somehow and alter everything to suite you? Because I'm pretty sure that would involve magic.
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« Reply #6089 on: August 26, 2013, 08:07:14 am »

Not sure what else you expected out of an American game. Should the game autodetect your culture somehow and alter everything to suite you? Because I'm pretty sure that would involve magic.

To be fair, if they could have regional-based content/restriction (censorship, language, etc.), this is already possible.
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