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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5865 on: July 18, 2013, 03:34:11 pm »

That's why I'm interested in Van Hellsing, it's an ARPG but with some interesting twists like base defense and a very neat style, all the others I've played trough or have gotten bored very quickly of. TL2 seems more like TL1 and that lasted me some time before getting too boring.

My only experience with Van Hellsing is that a friend of mine was playing it and told me that while playing, they experienced rubber-banding, like when your computer lags and the server tries to establish where you actually should be due to the brief disconnect. It's a sign of poor Netcode practice, they told me.

This was during single player. They uninstalled the game.
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5866 on: July 18, 2013, 03:36:15 pm »

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On the contrary, that's probably the best reason to discriminate against a publisher, and - although they may ostensibly have the power to do so - would result in less backlash than if Valve themselves unilaterally decided to pan a particular developer.

So you're telling me good business practice is to take people's money, then lampoon them on your service?

Either you accept their game, and apply the same rules to them as you do everyone else or you don't take their money. Valve took their money, and after the re-branding w/e they did, apparently it's enough to meet Valve's litmus test.

I'm not saying it's not a shitty game, abusive, predatory, whatever. So are half of these casual indie games.

What I am saying though, is you're asking Valve to apply individual consumer logic and preferences to how they promote games. Does. Not. Compute. For the people that bought and still play The War Z? Does their opinion not matter because they're obviously "stupid" and "gullible?" Or is it more a matter of we believe our opinion is superior, and we want Valve to basically read our minds and apply that to how they do promotions?

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This was during single player. They uninstalled the game.

Huh. Well that's good to know, I was thinking about buying it. Then again, it could come down to that user's PC, not the game.
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5867 on: July 18, 2013, 03:45:30 pm »

Thinking about picking up Tropico 4, Sang Froid, Magicka, and Port Royale 3. Opinions?
Sang Froid: I don't even know what that is, sorry.
IIRC, a trap defense a la Orcs Must Die (but top-down) wherein you play as a lumberjack who must protect various points of interest from werewolves. With a summary like that, how can you go wrong?

If you're into watching YouTube stuff, TotalBiscuit has a pretty good WTF Is.
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5868 on: July 18, 2013, 03:51:16 pm »

Thinking about picking up Tropico 4, Sang Froid, Magicka, and Port Royale 3. Opinions?

I played a bit of the Magicka demo and it turned me off on it pretty quick. It felt like a combo-button press fighting game, like Mortal Kombat, but with magic and your combos could kill you if you did them wrong.

It can be fun and I know a lot of people enjoy it, I'm just a spoil sport.


Tropico 4 is very fun if you like city builders. It has its own character, looks great, and it's hard to skip at the price it's at. The only DLC worth getting is the Modern Times one, since it adds quite a few hours of gameplay, but I've heard it breaks the game balance a little bit. If that bugs you, you can't use the Modern Times buildings outside of sandbox/the Modern Times campaign.


Can't say anything about the other ones. Port Royale does look interesting, but the Metacritic score is in the 50's. Pretty good indication that things may not be peachy keen.

Tropico 4 is indeed fantastic. Of note, I have some of their building DLC's like Plantador and Wet Cement, and I like them. They add buildings that are different, but don't break the balance horribly. I was actually just reflecting yesterday how well those fit into the game. Haven't actually tried Modern Times even though I've had it for ages, but I look forward to it.

It's a fantastic game. And in a way, it's everything the ill-fated recent SimCity game wanted to be.
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5869 on: July 18, 2013, 03:59:32 pm »

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I've heard it breaks the game balance a little bit

No the modern times DLC actually outright breaks the balance of Tropico... but you actually have to activate that DLC.

It only means that if you want a sandbox challenge for example, you aren't going to use Modern times since that DLC breaks Tropico over its knee. To put it into perspective, the modern fishing can actually earn more money then a factory can... and Car manufacturing (Modern factory) will eliminate the need for cash.

I am sure its campaign is much better. I only played the first mission but as soon as I actually got a single modern building I was pretty much invulnerable.
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« Reply #5870 on: July 18, 2013, 04:04:10 pm »

I was one of the people thinking that Tropico 3 didn't succeed as a sequel to Tropico 1. But over time, after actually playing it, I fell in love with the game and I own all the DLC's. I would even buy more. The game is simply great. If I didn't already own it I would definitely have picked it up during the sale!
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5871 on: July 18, 2013, 04:10:04 pm »

I honestly believe that selling WarZ and it's new name are criminal. They game is so bad that it merits a class action lawsuit. It misrepresents itself, it has an in game itemshop which is necessary to keep pumping money into because the game is FULL of hackers and the game itself has an unstable item database. Hammerpoint has done NOTHING to implement a change in any of these flaws or publicly address them. They just continue to take money for a product that they know to be faulty and Steam aids them in this and profits from it as well. This is the only problem I have ever had with Steam since 2005.
So today I learned that I'm inclined to take hemmingjay's condemnations at face value. Normally I'd probably want more details before agreeing with someone's description of a game I've never played, but somehow this just... seemed true.

Impressive credibility, hemmingjay.
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5872 on: July 18, 2013, 04:23:41 pm »

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I've heard it breaks the game balance a little bit

No the modern times DLC actually outright breaks the balance of Tropico... but you actually have to activate that DLC.

It only means that if you want a sandbox challenge for example, you aren't going to use Modern times since that DLC breaks Tropico over its knee. To put it into perspective, the modern fishing can actually earn more money then a factory can... and Car manufacturing (Modern factory) will eliminate the need for cash.

I am sure its campaign is much better. I only played the first mission but as soon as I actually got a single modern building I was pretty much invulnerable.

What people fail to mention about the Modern Times expansion is that you don't get all of that stuff right away, it comes to you over time depending on what year you start. By the time you get the upgraded modern buildings, such as the bio farms and fish farms, you're probably hurting for food from having a large population and not enough workers unless your economy has a strong agricultural base. When you get the modern housing, you're probably hurting for room for all of your people and they provide a way to increase population density so you don't end up as sprawling shack settlement. You've also got to have been making plenty of money by then to make use of all of the modern buildings, including producing power that most of them need.

The modern equivalents are almost always better, but when you're talking about a single player game, the only way that something is unbalanced is if it takes away any challenge that the game offers. In sandbox I can see that making sense, since like Neonivek said, once you start to adopt the modern buildings you're much better off. As for the campaign (and Modern Times has its own), you find yourself really being thankful for the modern buildings so your objectives don't take forever or cause you to lose due to time constraints. The campaign also tends to introduce its own pressures beyond the ordinary, so while the modern buildings pretty much fix the normal issues when you get them in like 20 years game time, you still have to worry about the added problems.
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Re: Steam Sales: SUMMER SALES, SPEND MONIES FOR IMAGINARY GETAWAY
« Reply #5873 on: July 18, 2013, 04:29:31 pm »

Why is Sim City only 70% off? It's been 75% already in the past (and I missed it =(). Guess I'll wait for its next sale. And guys please vote for CS:GO so I can get it with the cards moneys =D
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« Reply #5874 on: July 18, 2013, 04:35:37 pm »

So, I couldn't get more than a couple of hours in to Torchlight 1 before getting super bored. Click click click... and everything super linear...

I am considering Torchlight 2 to coop with my wife, but I'm wondering what B12's opinion on it is. I enjoyed Titan Quest a fair bit, Diablo 3 I just felt was grindy... I mean, nothing's been particularly new in ARPGs since Diablo 1, and I played that a ton.

Chances are if you found Torchlight 1 boring then you will probably find Torchlight 2 boring as well. It's better than the first for sure, but it seems to be missing that certain something that makes a game stand out from others in the same genre.

I play it with my friend co-op now and then. I find it hard to criticize because the game seems solid and it looks pretty nice (if a bit hard to follow as someone else mentioned) but it just gets a little repetitive for me and doesn't really offer an experience that leaves me wanting more.

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« Reply #5875 on: July 18, 2013, 04:43:05 pm »

Thinking about picking up Tropico 4, Sang Froid, Magicka, and Port Royale 3. Opinions?
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« Reply #5876 on: July 18, 2013, 04:53:02 pm »

Sang Froid is an action-tower defense game very vaguely reminescent of Orcs Must Die! Very vaguely.

It's set in old Canada, and the story/presentation are fantastic. The combat is satisfying. You set up tactical traps, prepare your equipment, and need to survive 2-5 (or so) waves at night. This is played out in 3rd person action where you have a melee weapon (axe), a ranged weapon (period-appropriate rifle) and potions/tools to assist you. The enemies are generally overpowering, so you have to use the traps very tactically.

I liked it, in part because the setting is so unique. I would recommend it at the current price for sure.


For those looking at Torchlight 2 but unsure/unsatisfied, I would also recommend checking out Path of Exile. F2P, amazing. It's the same "genre" of Diablo-like, but very different feel. Both are fantastic for what they are.
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« Reply #5877 on: July 18, 2013, 04:55:16 pm »

I bought Sang Froid when it was still early access and I never regretted it. The game has charm in spades and I thoroughly enjoyed it (minus a couple of frustrating missions). If you understand French at all it is worthwhile switching over from English dialogue as the quality of the voice acting is much better in my opinion.

I think most of my enjoyment from the game was the setting. If the setting was more generic then I probably would not have liked it as much because as a game it does have a few faults.

I can see people not liking the game because the combat is clunky and can be pretty frustrating at times and the graphics aren't all that great. I ran into a couple of bugs that forced me to restart a mission, but it wasn't a common occurrence. You can play as one of two brothers, the first is more of a brawler while the second is more of a trapper. The game's combat being as poor as it is I'd recommend the trapper approach if you play it as it is much more satisfying.
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« Reply #5878 on: July 18, 2013, 07:58:17 pm »

Man... I'd never heard of Sang Froid and got kind of excited when I saw it on the main page. That lasted until I actually watched the trailer and realized it was about killing werewolves instead of playing as them. Oh well.

I picked up Torchlight 2 despite finding 1 not entirely to my liking. I suspect one of the main reasons I didn't like 1 that much is that I didn't really like any of the playable classes/characters. I like the 2 ones better already just from the descriptions on the website, so we'll see how it goes.
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« Reply #5879 on: July 18, 2013, 08:04:24 pm »

I am a little pissed. I voted for CS:GO because it was supposed to be $5.00 but once it got picked they changed it to $6.28 and yes, I am in the US. Bastards.
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