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« Reply #10035 on: November 29, 2014, 10:11:43 pm »

Okay, Anno 2070 complete edition for 75% off.  Should I do it?  I don't have time to play it, but I might want to sometime in the future.

Is it likely to go lower in the next couple of years?  Why the hell are not the 140?-150?-160?-170? on Steam along with the sci fi one?  Am I likely to be able to get all of them on a bundle sometime?  Should I even play all of them, or is one of them representative and better than the others?

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« Reply #10036 on: November 29, 2014, 10:56:47 pm »

A note about Anno 2070, but last I heard they had a really restrictive drm. Like, you are only allowed to use it on 3 computers per purchased license, and something as simple as replacing your graphics card counts as "a new computer" (or something like format+reinstall windows will do it too). Combine that with their (in my experience) kinda bad customer service and I'd avoid it if you feel like your computer might end up needing an upgrade, replacement parts, or a reinstall anytime soon.
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« Reply #10037 on: November 29, 2014, 11:08:06 pm »

Okay, Anno 2070 complete edition for 75% off.  Should I do it?  I don't have time to play it, but I might want to sometime in the future.

Is it likely to go lower in the next couple of years?  Why the hell are not the 140?-150?-160?-170? on Steam along with the sci fi one?  Am I likely to be able to get all of them on a bundle sometime?  Should I even play all of them, or is one of them representative and better than the others?

It took a long time for Ubisoft to allow it to fall this low; it's probably as good as it's gonna get until they squirt out another sequel.

The rest of the Anno series is difficult to find to purchase.  Anno 1503 is on GamersGate... that's it.  Then you're into used markets, and less-legal methods.  Ubisoft has been good about getting some older stuff back out there, like HoMM, older Settlers, etc...  So I don't think it's a lack of desire; my best guess is that some clause in the acquirement contract with Sunflowers is preventing them from doing so (probably for a while, but not forever).

FAKE EDIT: yeah, there was a lot of stink about the DRM when Anno 2070 was new...  allegedly, they dialed that back.  Allegedly.

It still requires Uplay, as all Ubipoop games do... so consider if you want to dance with that devil.
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« Reply #10038 on: November 29, 2014, 11:16:32 pm »

so even if I buy it on steam -- which already deletes all my porn -- there is still ADDITIONAL drm?  dafuq?

And here I was grumpy about having to register for another service to play Torchlight 2 online... sheesh.

Okay, since I dont ACTUALLY have time to play it, I'll hold off.  It would have been an impulse / opportunistic buy anyway, which basically translates to spending money to feel good about spending money.  Which I guess I don't need to do.
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« Reply #10039 on: November 29, 2014, 11:48:15 pm »

Why on earth would Steam delete porn? Or anything else for that matter? 0_o
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« Reply #10040 on: November 29, 2014, 11:55:15 pm »

2070 is garbage. Different, but still garbage. You can't land battle, which makes taking over islands more of a pain in the ass because they tend to be too wide to do much with boats. Planes go down quickly. You're just not encouraged to take more than one island, which restricts gameplay.
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« Reply #10041 on: November 29, 2014, 11:59:47 pm »

Why on earth would Steam delete porn? Or anything else for that matter? 0_o

I thought this was a well known meme, but a quick google search says I'm wrong.

It used to be a popular joke when steam was new and everyone was afraid of it spying on you or not letting you play games offline, or just plain going out of business.

But... swing and a miss.
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« Reply #10042 on: November 30, 2014, 12:06:34 am »

You could put your porn in a game's folder in one of your steam library folders and it still wouldn't delete it when you told it to delete local content for that game...
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« Reply #10043 on: November 30, 2014, 12:36:14 am »

A note about Anno 2070, but last I heard they had a really restrictive drm. Like, you are only allowed to use it on 3 computers per purchased license, and something as simple as replacing your graphics card counts as "a new computer" (or something like format+reinstall windows will do it too). Combine that with their (in my experience) kinda bad customer service and I'd avoid it if you feel like your computer might end up needing an upgrade, replacement parts, or a reinstall anytime soon.

Yes, that DRM sucks a lot, but apparently they reset your maximum installations fairly often now. Like, you get one back every month or something, I don't remember. I know I hated the installation limit but in the end I got it after they tweaked it a bit.
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« Reply #10044 on: November 30, 2014, 01:58:12 am »

What would be awesome is if they would make a note on the store page saying what it requires. There is nothing on there about any other games being required. I wonder how many people spent money on it only to find out they couldn't play it.

To be clear: I don't have any games at all using that engine. So if it won't run as a standalone game, then there's no point in me getting it.
They used to have a notice and having HL2: Deathmatch or the Portal demo from a hardware deal explicitly didn't count.

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« Reply #10045 on: November 30, 2014, 08:02:57 am »

2070 is garbage. Different, but still garbage. You can't land battle, which makes taking over islands more of a pain in the ass because they tend to be too wide to do much with boats. Planes go down quickly. You're just not encouraged to take more than one island, which restricts gameplay.

I wouldn't call it garbage. I hadn't played anything else in the series but I've put in 270 hours into 2070. That's 270 entertaining hours: I did not find any of that to be a grind.

I agree that military conquest is annoying since you definitely need planes and they are expensive and weak, and the only way to beat an AI opponent militarily is to keep the pressure up because they don't actually have an economy that you can cripple in order to wittle them away: they simply rebuild their buildings following the same pattern (based on their faction), regardless of whether it even makes sense to build a dozen oil derricks or coal extractors on an island with no oil and depleted coal stocks.

That said, none of the campaign missions require that you obliterate an enemy's island presence completely. There are a couple challenges maps (slash achievements) that do require it, and of those, I had only had difficulty with one of them (to the extent that I looked up a "recommended strategy" to win it) when trying to play in my usual inefficient manner.

Even if the military game sucks, I felt the rest of the game was extremely good. So good that I'd love to see more of this industry/economy type management game; in fact, I'd love to see that whole economy model adopted into late-development DF as an extension of civ-level management (the whole extract resources, refine resources, produce goods, refine goods, produce better goods, refine better goods, etc). In particular, I think it's an opportunity to look at how consumption can work in DF for non-food/drink items (the civ/worker population in Anno consume luxuries in addition to food and drink, and more skilled workers require varieties of increasingly "complex-to-produce" luxuries/food/drink in order to be satisfied).

I strongly recommend it as a game, if you enjoy the management aspects of DF, or other management games like Sim City. The major gameplay is definitely in the satisfaction of designing and building up a well-running colony. It also did something very well (and rare these days) in that most, if not all, of the achievements actually unlock more things, which give you goals to work for despite the freeform gameplay outside if the campaigns. I felt there were more things they could have to add additional late/top-level gameplay (for example, a by-territory world map for establishing other colonies, sort of like Dawn of War:Soulstorm or Empire:Battle for Dune), and the multiplayer aspect is decidedly unrewarding, but nonetheless what's there is a complete game in its own right.

However, it is still a ubisoft product. In addition to the restrictive licensing mentioned earlier, it also require Uplay, which is Ubisoft's steam/origin clone/launcher. I wasn't aware of that when I first bought it (too lazy to Read Everything) and knowing that now makes me even less inclined to buy ubisoft products, but it hasn't caused me any significant irritation to the extent that I'd rather not have bought 2070.
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« Reply #10046 on: November 30, 2014, 09:30:32 am »

Uplay seems to behave itself well.  Farcry 3, 4, and blood dragon use it AND steam, and I haven't encountered any issues with it like Games For Windows Live had.

It can basically be ignored.  Or you can use the Uplay gamerscore you get by completing Uplay achievements to unlock certain minor DLCs, which is actually slightly cool.

Edit:  I do think you need to register an account once though.  After I did that for Blood Dragon, it seemed to auto-log me in for Farcry 3 and 4.  It's also the basis of multiplayer matchmaking, but it worked smoothly for that too.  It does the job without being a hassle which is... all I want from it.
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« Reply #10047 on: November 30, 2014, 09:33:02 am »

TF2 is a Free to Play Source game, and qualifies you to use Source assets.
Most game-specific assets are included in the Source SDKs.
Many mods and the like don't actually require you to buy the game they're based on/borrow from, but that's an easier way to do so.

As for GMod, I would swear that when they moved to a paid and officially endorsed mod, that they included access to the Source engine and most assets without other purchases.
Worst case, they aren't included, the TF2 and SDK downloads would expand your selection of assets significantly.
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« Reply #10048 on: November 30, 2014, 06:28:26 pm »

Uplay seems to behave itself well.  Farcry 3, 4, and blood dragon use it AND steam, and I haven't encountered any issues with it like Games For Windows Live had.

It can basically be ignored.  Or you can use the Uplay gamerscore you get by completing Uplay achievements to unlock certain minor DLCs, which is actually slightly cool.

Edit:  I do think you need to register an account once though.  After I did that for Blood Dragon, it seemed to auto-log me in for Farcry 3 and 4.  It's also the basis of multiplayer matchmaking, but it worked smoothly for that too.  It does the job without being a hassle which is... all I want from it.

I had crippling issues regarding Uplay, to the point where I couldn't play Assassin's Creed III because it would have to update Uplay, fail the update, require a reinstall, update Assassin's Creed III, fail the update to Assassin's Creed III, have to retry, etc. And that happened every time Uplay updated. That was like 75% of why it took me over a year to beat AC3; by the time I got past the bullshit, I didn't feel like playing an Ubisoft game at all.

I like Uplay's design and it's score thing and all that, I just hate that I was experiencing updating issues consistently and constantly.
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« Reply #10049 on: December 01, 2014, 03:28:33 am »

Ugh, of course I had to decide that I wanted Endless legend AFTER the big sale of it ends. However I noticed that the classic and emperor packs are both more expensive than the classic-to-emperor pack. What is up with that? What is the classic-to-emperor pack?
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