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PCpaste

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These aquifers, man...
« on: March 12, 2011, 08:53:00 pm »

You just... Can't get away from them! I'm in a scorching desert, WHY IS THERE AN AQUIFER? How am I supposed to get around it?! Hm?
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 08:55:55 pm »

Embark on the moon.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011, 08:56:50 pm »

Embark on the moon.

He likes scorching environments. Embark on the sun.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 08:57:59 pm »

Embark on the moon.

He likes scorching environments. Embark on the sun.
How did you know I like scorching environments?! Oh, right...
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2011, 09:01:40 pm »

turn them off in the raws.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2011, 09:05:42 pm »

You just... Can't get away from them!
If you're desperate, just remove them from the raws.

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I'm in a scorching desert, WHY IS THERE AN AQUIFER?
Because it's possible in real life.
The Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System (NSAS) is the world’s largest known fossil water aquifer system. It is located underground in the Eastern end of the Sahara Desert and spans the political boundaries of four countries in north-eastern Africa.
Most land areas on Earth have some form of aquifer underlying them, sometimes at significant depths.

How am I supposed to get around it?! Hm?
Try these methods.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 05:11:21 am »

Aquifers are one of the many reason why most mines in real life are in mountainous regions where the minerals are exposed above the water-table.  If you need a guaranteed way of getting through aquifers of any depth, follow the link in my sig.
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Foolprooof way to penetrate aquifers of unlimited depth.  (Make sure to import at least 10 stones for mechanisms)
Toughen Dwarves by dropping stuff on them.  (Nothing too heavy though, and make sure to wear armor.)
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 05:15:03 am »

The one on page two of that thread, with the single pump and stuff, is hard to follow.  The writer didn't seem to know how to explain it very well.

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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 05:21:40 am »

I understood it ok, but then I've done similar things before.  The order that you dig-and-wall the soil is important, since too much open area results in too much water sloshing about and cancelling your construction projects, but he doesn't describe how one should go about doing that, just that you should "end up with walls like so".  I'll see if I can come up with a more elegant solution.  I think it will involve doors.
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Foolprooof way to penetrate aquifers of unlimited depth.  (Make sure to import at least 10 stones for mechanisms)
Toughen Dwarves by dropping stuff on them.  (Nothing too heavy though, and make sure to wear armor.)
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"Urist had a little lamb
whose feet tracked blighted soot.
And into every face he saw
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 01:02:53 pm »

Of course if the aquifers are only 1 or 2 deep you can get through via a very Dwarfy deliberate cavein in order to drop precarved Dams of natural stone/soil,  doesn't even require any stone provided you have wood and like taking risks.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2011, 03:45:02 pm »

May I present you a little trinket to help you out?

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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2011, 04:00:06 pm »

It always baffles me when people try to avoid aquifers. Yes, we all avoided them like the plague when we first began, but when you learn how to dig through them they become an invaluable tool - an infinite source of water that never dries up.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2011, 04:17:24 pm »

I don't like 'em because they make my entrances look ugly.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2011, 08:20:35 am »

No, no. You're not using them right. They should be part of the entrance. Wall them off with flood gates. Then when you need to close the entrance from a siege, you close floor hatches, and open the flood gates. The Aquifer fills over the entrance, and the siege can't get in. When it's over, you shut the flood gates, open the hatches, after closing the flood gates in your entry way, by the way, and then have pumps drain the entry. Now you're dry and goblin/kobold/treehugger free.
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Re: These aquifers, man...
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2011, 08:43:23 am »

So, you flood over your entrance during a siege, instead of using walls?  Just make sure you've got stone hatches, or you'll get giant-toaded...
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