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[veok]

So, I just embarked using the following profile:

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[PROFILE]
[TITLE:AGGRESSIVE EMBARK]
[SKILL:1:MINING:5]
[SKILL:2:MINING:5]
[SKILL:3:WOODCUTTING:2]
[SKILL:3:CARPENTRY:3]
[SKILL:6:SMELT:1]
[SKILL:6:FORGE_WEAPON:1]
[SKILL:6:FORGE_ARMOR:1]
[SKILL:7:HAMMER:2]
[SKILL:7:SHIELD:2]
[SKILL:7:ARMOR:2]
[SKILL:7:MELEE_COMBAT:2]
[SKILL:7:DODGING:2]
[ITEM:2:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK:INORGANIC:COPPER]
[ITEM:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE:INORGANIC:COPPER]
[ITEM:1:ANVIL:NONE:INORGANIC:IRON]
[ITEM:20:DRINK:NONE:PLANT_MAT:POD_SWEET:DRINK]
[ITEM:20:DRINK:NONE:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_TAIL_PIG:DRINK]
[ITEM:20:DRINK:NONE:PLANT_MAT:GRASS_WHEAT_CAVE:DRINK]
[ITEM:6:SEEDS:NONE:PLANT_MAT:POD_SWEET:SEED]
[ITEM:6:SEEDS:NONE:PLANT_MAT:BUSH_QUARRY:SEED]
[ITEM:15:MEAT:NONE:CREATURE_MAT:OLM:MUSCLE]
[ITEM:15:FISH:NONE:FISH_CAVE:MALE]
[ITEM:5:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP:STRUCTURAL]
[ITEM:1:ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:INORGANIC:IRON]
[ITEM:1:HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:INORGANIC:IRON]
[ITEM:1:SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD:INORGANIC:IRON]
[ITEM:1:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:SILVER]
[ITEM:5:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:COAL_BITUMINOUS]
[ITEM:1:BAR:NONE:COAL:COKE]
[PET:2:CAT:FEMALE:STANDARD]

Embark site loads up, and I look at my units list. One-humped camel (the wagon puller, obviously), 2 cats, and... a yak cow? Where'd that come from?

[FallingWhale]

The other puller.

[veok]

The other puller.

Since when are there multiple pullers?

[Naryar]

There are always two pullers.

[Girlinhat]

I've never seen two pullers ._.

Then again I rarely care enough to pay attention.

[Bordellimies]

I've never seen two pullers ._.

Then again I rarely care enough to pay attention.

I never thought them as the wagon pullers, but yeah, always 2 large animals.

[veok]

There have not been two pullers in .10 through .18. If there are two pullers, this is new to .19-.21.

Edit: Just pulled up my copy of .18, embarked, only had one wagon puller. This *is* new to .19-.21.

[Joshua IX]

There have not been two pullers in .10 through .18. If there are two pullers, this is new to .19-.21.

Edit: Just pulled up my copy of .18, embarked, only had one wagon puller. This *is* new to .19-.21.

I've definitely seen 2 in .18

[Naryar]

You get 2 free [WAGON_PULLER] animals at embark.

[rephikul]

I get 1-2 pullers in .18 with the same embark setup every time, this is purely random. Nice if you have a breeding pair tho.

[TheyTarget]

My guess, since you're bringing rocks of bituminous coal, which weigh a ton, you're needing more pullers to pull the cart. I've heard the more weight you embark with the more puller/wagons you can get. I'm gonna do some tests to see about this.

Confirmed my suspicions. I embarked with 3333 boulders of bituminous coals and I had SIX wagon pullers. 3 horses and 3 donkeys.

[Quietust]

Earlier versions of 0.31 were only bringing 1 puller because no domestic animals were capable of pulling wagons at all, so the game would just give you a single pack animal instead. Now that there are more wagon pullers available, you always get 2 of them - back in 40d and earlier, it was normal to get 2 of them per wagon (which you get if you embark with TONS of stuff, something which was actually surprisingly easy to do back in the old 2D versions).

[CapnUrist]

I've only been getting one because I usually go minimal; enough food and booze for three seasons, less than ten rocks and a shite-ton of dogs to kick off my defense and meat industry.

I guess I'll have to start cutting back on canines and stock up on stones.

[Naros]

Read Quietust's message above. It was a bug. It's fixed now. It's not related to how much heavy stuff you take.

[TheyTarget]

Read Quietust's message above. It was a bug. It's fixed now. It's not related to how much heavy stuff you take.

.... see

Confirmed my suspicions. I embarked with 3333 boulders of bituminous coals and I had SIX wagon pullers. 3 horses and 3 donkeys.

It's clearly related to how much heavy stuff you take.