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[OverrideB1]

So, one of my dwarves has been churning out happy meals on an almost continuous basis -- rapidly becoming a talented cook. Inevitably, he managed to slap together a masterpeice dish. Now he's have a total wobbly because somebody had the effrontary to actually eat it.

Is this a bug, because I don't think that cooks should exhibit this sort of behaviour at the "loss" of a masterpiece dish.

[Frogman]

[Heliopios]

They shouldntget pissed at a meal being eaten, are you sure it wasnt left in a hallway and rotted, or something of the like?

[Fieari]

It's my understanding that masterpiece food items are explicitly made exempt from tantruming due to eating it.  They are not exempt from tantruming due to being tossed in the river/chasm/magma, and it'll also cause a tantrum if it rots.

I'd bet you almost anything it rotted, probably while still in the kitchen, before a hauler could get it safely into storage.  This makes sense for tantrums.  "I MADE THIS FANTASTIC MEAL, AND YOU LET IT ROT?!?!?!?!"

[OverrideB1]

Yeah, that appears to be what happened... and how I got confoozled. 2 stacks of identically named food -- only one is a masterpeice and the other is just a McDwarven Happy Meal. The regular stuff gets eaten, but the real good stuff was left to rot.

How long, on average, do temper tantrums last? 'Cause it's been over a year now and he's still throwing wobblies -- even though I've appointed another chef and demoted him to general haulage duties... just so it doesn't happen again.

And, on a related note -- shouldn't eating priority get given to 5-star meals over elephant-burgers and chips?

[ April 18, 2007: Message edited by: OverrideB1 ]

[Black Hound]

quote:It's my understanding that masterpiece food items are explicitly made exempt from tantruming due to eating it.

So what if someone ate, say, a masterpiece sword? Would the smith be okay with that?

Actually, I can see how even an insufferable perfectionist might be reluctant to try and start anything with someone who can eat swords.

[Frogman]

quote:Originally posted by OverrideB1:
<STRONG>And, on a related note -- shouldn't eating priority get given to 5-star meals over elephant-burgers and chips?
[ April 18, 2007: Message edited by: OverrideB1 ]</STRONG>

Had your economy started? I think most dwarves don't want to spend their entire fortune on a single meal. And well-made food is... expensive.

[herrbdog]

As soon as I had a fey-mood crafter make an artifact bag and get legendary weaver and all badass stats, he IMMEDIATELY got drafted. Not so he would injure the other dwarves, not so his super stats would make him a super soldier.

It's cause I didn't want him going nuts if I had him make cloth and one of his bags happened to wash into the river when someone left it there, cause he had to get a drink in the middle of collecting sand...

[Peristarkawan]

quote:Originally posted by herrbdog:
<STRONG>As soon as I had a fey-mood crafter make an artifact bag and get legendary weaver and all badass stats, he IMMEDIATELY got drafted. Not so he would injure the other dwarves, not so his super stats would make him a super soldier.

It's cause I didn't want him going nuts if I had him make cloth and one of his bags happened to wash into the river when someone left it there, cause he had to get a drink in the middle of collecting sand...</STRONG>

Raw materials and intermediates like cloth generally don't have an item quality associated with them, so I don't think you have anything to worry about.  If he had legendary Clothesmaker and you set him to making the actual bags, then you might have a problem.

[TotalPigeon]

The cloth does have a quality modifier. Don't know how that translates across once you start making bags out of it, but you might get a pissed off dwarf or two.

[Peristarkawan]

quote:Originally posted by TotalPigeon:
<STRONG>The cloth does have a quality modifier. Don't know how that translates across once you start making bags out of it, but you might get a pissed off dwarf or two.</STRONG>

Funny, I've never noticed it.  Then again, I don't go around inspecting my cloth very often.

[herrbdog]

Even a no-modifier bag, if made with masterpiece cloth, when swept into the river from being left upon its banks during flooding WILL cause tantrums. I had it happen before. I was watching my dwarfs collect sand during the flood. I had tried to disable sand collecting in time to get them to stop before the flood hit. They didn't, of course, cause of drinking, sleeping, partying... Anyway, I watched as three bags got swept into the river, then "<insert> cancels collect webs: tantruming". It took me a minute to figure out what had happened. Damn weaver killed several other dwarfs by destroying a chasm bridge (and left objects floating in the chasm). Then the Shiriff got his arse into the prison!

This weaver was ONLY weaving (and health care, burial, animal care, and item hauling) and also my only clothmaker. My clothiers kept committing suicide from failing to get stuff for their own great artifacts, so they all made crap quality stuffs. It was the cloth. Unless someone had eaten a rope. I had no clothes to be stolen by kobolds or racoons, I had a nudist fort. Not to mention this was in a desert, so there weren't racoons or mandrills anyway.

[Ookpik]

quote:Originally posted by Peristarkawan:
<STRONG>Funny, I've never noticed it.  Then again, I don't go around inspecting my cloth very often.</STRONG>

You've never opened the trading screen?  Cloth turns up there, and you can see a whole range of modifiers.  I usually try to trade away my masterpiece cloth before something terrible happens to it.  

Related question:  When you tan a hide, is it possible for the leather to have a modifier?  I've never had a tanner good enough for this to become an issue, but I'm curious whether I should start putting points into tanning.

[Draco18s]

quote:Originally posted by Frogman:
<STRONG>

Had your economy started? I think most dwarves don't want to spend their entire fortune on a single meal. And well-made food is... expensive.</STRONG>

Last I checked food was free to all dwarves.

[slMagnvox]

quote:Originally posted by Ookpik:
<STRONG>Related question:  When you tan a hide, is it possible for the leather to have a modifier?  I've never had a tanner good enough for this to become an issue, but I'm curious whether I should start putting points into tanning.</STRONG>

Tanned hide doesn't get quality modifiers.

I had a Weaver tantrum very badly once, after a bag made of his cloth washed into the river (Make sure you know how to make a sand bag stockpile before collecting sand!).  Funny part was, the Weaver seriously injured his "arresting officer" (His Loom Hand's Strong!) and the Sheriff never assigned another Guard to chain him up.  I think he had the biggest rap sheet I'd ever generated and went free for over a year while the Guard nursed his wounds.

Once a weaver of mine gets good he gets promoted to the military or to some new profession.  Peasants love weaving, they can collect webs for loads of free EXP.