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Undead Birds
« on: March 07, 2011, 02:08:11 am »
I just had a bunch of skeletal and zombie buzzards come to my fortress.
I noticed an interesting thing, the skeletal ones could fly, but the zombie ones couldn't.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 03:18:40 am »
Doesn't that make a strange sort of sense to anyone else?  Somehow I can easily imagine a flying skeletal bird, but a zombie bird just seems unrealistic.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 03:19:46 am »
skeletal = no feathers no feathers = YOU CANT FLY FOOL
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 03:24:45 am »
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skeletal = no feathers no feathers = YOU CANT FLY FOOL
Fantasy has played with cartilage before.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 04:06:59 am »
I imagine the same supernatural forces that cause the bones of a creature to start moving by themselves are also responsible for its ability to fly.
Zombie creatures would lack the energy needed for flight, if we assume they are the classic 'slow' zombies.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 04:10:43 am »
Quote from: Ahra on March 07, 2011, 03:19:46 am
skeletal = no feathers no feathers = YOU CANT FLY FOOL

Yeah, but skeletons are often portrayed in fantasy as being held together by magic, while zombies are usually diseased. That's why skeletons sometimes have swords and armour in general media, but not zombies.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2011, 09:40:05 am »
Quote from: Ahra on March 07, 2011, 03:19:46 am
skeletal = no feathers no feathers = YOU CANT FLY FOOL

This is true, but keep in mind that a skeletal being also has no internal organs, so how could it survive?

Answer: A wizard did it.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 09:43:16 am »
Zombie Crows Resident evil style...
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 09:43:48 am »
If I remember correctly this is the opposite of how skeletal and zombie creatures work in Dungeons and Dragons, for those who are curious: Zombie creatures fly (albeit crappily), whereas skeletal creatures cannot do so.

*shrug* Anything can be justified, although personally my druthers would be either only zombies can fly or neither can fly, as it seems a little odd to me that whatever vile force of the land which causes the dead to rise from the grave also happens to grant certain things the ability to magically hover, but only things which could do so while alive but only if the body has rotted away enough to be fleshless.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 11:46:33 am »
Quote from: ThrowerOfStones on March 07, 2011, 09:43:48 am
*shrug* Anything can be justified, although personally my druthers would be either only zombies can fly or neither can fly, as it seems a little odd to me that whatever vile force of the land which causes the dead to rise from the grave also happens to grant certain things the ability to magically hover, but only things which could do so while alive but only if the body has rotted away enough to be fleshless.

Way I see it, Zombies probably have the ability to fly as well -- they just lack the energy or focus to do so.  Zombies are stupid; they do not think.  They know only one thing: vile death.  ...  Wait, so far I'm just describing dwarves.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 01:02:35 pm »
Quote from: Dorf3000 on March 07, 2011, 04:06:59 am
I imagine the same supernatural forces that cause the bones of a creature to start moving by themselves are also responsible for its ability to fly.
Zombie creatures would lack the energy needed for flight, if we assume they are the classic 'slow' zombies.

Zombie implys slow and brain dead more so then even rotting. So the most logically thing would be they don't possess the cognitive ability to fly. While skeletons on the other hand would have to be completely animated by a magical force so I'd have to say a wizard did it. And I'm gonna have to now leave this topic on Zombies because my Z key is gone and this is a very hard conversation to have.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 03:38:08 pm »
i love how everyone is discussing the mechanics behind undeath, instead of commenting on 'How many did they kill?!' or theorycrafting on possible weaponization of said flying skeletal birds...
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 04:30:15 pm »
Can zombies or skeletons even be tamed?
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 08:24:20 pm »
No, and they're hostile to everything (?) that isn't undead.

Really, the only reason they aren't weaponized more often is because they're killed too easily.
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Re: Undead Birds
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 08:34:33 pm »
Quote from: Jachim on March 07, 2011, 03:38:08 pm
i love how everyone is discussing the mechanics behind undeath, instead of commenting on 'How many did they kill?!' or theorycrafting on possible weaponization of said flying skeletal birds...

Well, we need to determine which is both most weaponizable and which makes the most sense as a weapon.  Can we use Skeletal Birds as a weapon if we can't suspend our disbelief long enough to accept that they can fly?  I sure couldn't. 

And who cares "how many did they kill"?  It's a number somewhere between "1" and "all existence."  That's how many...  always die.
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