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[Pandarsenic]

Jedi insight

No. The mafia cannot win until it isn't possible for them to lose.

[Mr.Person]

Is it possible? Yes. WILL they? Maybe.

Is Pandarsenic stupid enough to include 2 cults? No. Is Pand stupid enough to have a false-flipping cult head? I don't think so.

[Jack A T]

Is Pandarsenic stupid enough to include 2 cults? No. Is Pand stupid enough to have a false-flipping cult head? I don't think so.

One simple response: "When killed, a Zombie becomes a Chrysalid of Cult alignment unless lynched."

[webadict]

I see, I see...

Hm...

Jack A T is almost certainly Mafia. Ain'tcha?

[Jack A T]

Jack A T is almost certainly Mafia. Ain'tcha?

Actually, I'm not.  I'm a member of a faction that, if what I'm thinking happens to be correct, is keeping the mafia from winning right now.

And I just tore apart your whole "The revive proves that Mr. Person is town" idea by asking Pandarsenic a question.

And you, for one, know that there happens to be at least one chrysalid alive at the moment.  I know that you know that.

Now, why should the town work with me?  Two reasons:
1. When the Chrysalids win, all surviving zombies win too.
2. Because, frankly, working with me is more likely to get you the slightest chance of a town victory than not working with me.  Most of the people I think are mafiosoes happen to have not posted yet, for example.

Also, as a side note, Webadict, I love how you haven't actually bothered to vote yet.  Even though you're so sure that I'm mafia and trying to get a townie killed.

To summarize: Webadict's argument sucks, and I'm a Chrysalid.

[webadict]

Jack A T is almost certainly Mafia. Ain'tcha?

Actually, I'm not.  I'm a member of a faction that, if what I'm thinking happens to be correct, is keeping the mafia from winning right now.

And I just tore apart your whole "The revive proves that Mr. Person is town" idea by asking Pandarsenic a question.

And you, for one, know that there happens to be at least one chrysalid alive at the moment.  I know that you know that.

Now, why should the town work with me?  Two reasons:
1. When the Chrysalids win, all surviving zombies win too.
2. Because, frankly, working with me is more likely to get you the slightest chance of a town victory than not working with me.  Most of the people I think are mafiosoes happen to have not posted yet, for example.

Also, as a side note, Webadict, I love how you haven't actually bothered to vote yet.  Even though you're so sure that I'm mafia and trying to get a townie killed.

To summarize: Webadict's argument sucks, and I'm a Chrysalid.

Here's the reason: There's likely 3 Mafia right now, and my role makes townies revives instead of losing. Which is why I'm certain he's Town.

Also, you have no idea what you're talking about.

No one is Cult. You want to know why?

They turn into Zombies first, idiot. Jack A T. If you're going to fakeclaim, then fakeclaim a role that exists. You turn into a Chrysallid whenever you, as a Zombie, are killed. You, of course, revive, and then continue being alive.

I don't believe you can prove that you revived, since you didn't. Nice try though.

[Mr.Person]

I want to hear more from Jack AT. When did you join the Chrysalids? Why are you claiming it out publically now?

Protip: The mafia are going to murder your ass dead if your claim is true, so we all have to work under the assumption it isn't. Personally, I find it more likely there were only 3 mafia members to begin with what with the MILLIONS of third parties in attendance here tonight.

[Jack A T]

Webadict:

Ah, so you finally vote.

Interesting.  What's most interesting is your claim to have a role other than "Zombie" at this point, my good friend.  Unvote, vote Webadict.

I never revived to become a Chrysalid.  I never had to.  I am the original.

Jim Groovester was nightkilled Night 2.  Instead of dying, he became a Chrysalid.  Please reread the wording of the Chrysalid role, and note the lack of mention of reviving.  It acts more like the person never died in the first place.  He just changed.

Jim's original role was Rogue, by the way.  To quote him (in Cultchat), "My sole purpose in life was to kill the Roguelike with my one shot kill. Then both of us would win. If I was wrong I lost the game."

On your role, I was waiting for you to claim like that.  I zombified you.  Today.  After your first post.  I received confirmation of the zombification before your second post today.

Quick question, to make a point:
Pandarsenic: Does the Zombie/Chrysalid death conversion process work as I explained it in this post?

PPE:

I want to hear more from Jack AT. When did you join the Chrysalids? Why are you claiming it out publically now?

Protip: The mafia are going to murder your ass dead if your claim is true, so we all have to work under the assumption it isn't. Personally, I find it more likely there were only 3 mafia members to begin with what with the MILLIONS of third parties in attendance here tonight.

Bonjour.  As stated above, I'm the original chrysalid.  I'm claiming it publicly because I basically seemed to be screwed if I didn't.  With my general level of activity, I'm a likely mafia target anyway.  Having the town hunting the cult down just wouldn't help much either.  The general level of activity looked like it could be pulled to our (chrysalids and zombies) advantage, and I had the whole "zombies win with chrysalids" thing on my side.  That, and I'm getting a strong 4 mafia feeling from the game.  If I'm going to die, I'm going to die fighting.

I know the mafia's going to kill me.  However, there haven't been that many good targets for them to kill, and I've been one of those few targets.  I'm not increasing my chance of death much.

I'm really, really hoping that I'm wrong and that there are three mafia members.  However, it feels to me like there are four.

Is anyone actually playing other than Webadict, Mr. Person, and I?  Anyone?

[webadict]

Unvote

Well... Thought I caught you *sigh* and you know about my zombification, so I can pretty much trust you on that whole claim. However, Mr. Person was likely revived from my effect, but that's gone, thanks to you (Pandarsenic wasn't clear when I was turned into a Zombie, because he thinks I can read minds. Was it last Night?) So, fine. I can't lynch you because that doesn't stop the Mafia and because you're technically a... Err... Second chance to win, just in case >.>

[Jokerman-EXE]

Yeah, I'm here. This game is confusing as Hell, so I'm watching for now. I'm very interested to see the end of this debate, however.

[Mr.Person]

Some weird shit is going down. Or everything is normal and we're all fucked.

[Jack A T]

Well... Thought I caught you *sigh* and you know about my zombification, so I can pretty much trust you on that whole claim. However, Mr. Person was likely revived from my effect, but that's gone, thanks to you (Pandarsenic wasn't clear when I was turned into a Zombie, because he thinks I can read minds. Was it last Night?) So, fine. I can't lynch you because that doesn't stop the Mafia and because you're technically a... Err... Second chance to win, just in case >.>

I turned you into a zombie today, after your first post.  It's an X power, which means I can use it at any time.

Unvote.  It looks like all we managed to do was get caught up in a mass of traps and misinterpretations.

Could you, by chance, give a fullclaim of your previous role and actions?  This kind of messed up my scumpicks a good bit, and I need to get more information to rethink them.

Actually, y'know, that could be a good thing for all zombies to do.

[webadict]

My role name was "Why Would You Do That? (Town)" My ability was that while I was alive, my team could not lose. Instead, if I were about to lose, a random player of my alignment would resurrect, hence why I'm a little angry at you for Culting me, as I am now a powerless Zombie.

However, that's how I know Mr. Person is Town, as I'm pretty sure there are 3 Mafia.

[Mr.Person]

Does anybody else want to counterclaim reviving me?

[webadict]

By the way, I was PFP before. My role name is "Why Would You Do That: A Mafia Misadventure"

Just so that it's fully correct.