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[Jokerman-EXE]

Dude, it's because he tried to vote Pandarsenic. Read the thread a bit closer.

[Darvi]

Ya, but he did vote Red afterwards. This might be due to:

-Ottofar's ability
-Red's ability
-Pandar's being a dick
-something else
-all of the above

[NativeForeigner]

Finally read through the thread.

Native: are you going to do a policy vote against Leafsnail again?

I'm not usually one for policy votes.

Leafsnail: I can understand you wanting to find the alignments of everyone, but there are better ways of doing it than asking a question that anyone can lie about.

Jokerman: Noted. Do you think scum has more than one NK? Perhaps a one-shot like you suspect?

[lordnincompoop]

So we're playing a (pseudo)Bastard Mod here?

lordnincompoop: What do you think is likely to be more problematic: scum, or third parties?

Scum, I think, because of their abilities and numbers.

I'm not sure what I think of this, because I'm not that familiar with setups containing third parties.

SirBayer: How familiar are you with Mafia?
Darvi: How do you plan on approaching D1 here?
Leafsnail: How often have you played scum, and how successful were you?
Ottofar: How much of an effect do you think the roles will have?
Argembarger: How will the addition of so many roles affect your play?
Zrk2: How will you be scumhunting?
Bookthras: If you were scum, what implications would the roles have for you?
Jack A T: If you were a third-party, how would you approach this game?
Org: Do you think the scum will be easier or harder to find in this setup?
Jokerman-EXE: What alignment would you prefer to be?
Toaster: How important do you think the mechanics (and the discovery of them) will be in this game?
IronyOwl: How active are you planning on being?
NativeForeigner: How do you think the game will play out?
Mr.Person: How do you think D1 is going so far?

[Jack A T]

Jack A T: If you were a third-party, how would you approach this game?

Hugely depends on the specific third party.  No matter what, I'd approach this with confusion.
*Cult: Cult experienced and town-like players, while (if scum removal is required) getting rid of the scum.
*Survivor: Keep myself out of the public eye, but still kind of contribute.
*Jester: Try to act like scum trying to act like town.  Occasionally contradict myself.  Insult those who go against me.
*SK: Act like town.  Kill anyone I don't like.  Make sure everyone gets horribly drunk.

[Pandarsenic]

Re Ottofar question: No

Answering Spoiled Spectators: You may post freely. You may not vote or be voted without Laws allowing it. You have no powers as of now. Fun and excitement begins at night.

[NativeForeigner]

NativeForeigner: How do you think the game will play out?

That's really hard to predict in a game like this. I'm sure there will be shenanigans, secrets, and surprises galore.

[Toaster]

IronyOwl:  Do you expect the chaos to distract from the scum hunting?

I do. To some extent that's a good thing, since we can't really expect to do business as normal and have it guaranteed to work out.

So you think interference with scum hunting is good.  That's nice to know, scumbucket.

Toaster: How important do you think the mechanics (and the discovery of them) will be in this game?

Figuring out the ones that interfere with scum hunting (mainly those that screw with voting) will be fairly important.  After that, figuring out anything that redirects night actions wholesale is good to know.  I would assume that most anything else is merely an annoyance, unless something crazy and horrible happens.


Zrk2:  How is alignment-fishing bad?

Also, Ottofar tried to vote for the mod, then a spectator.  I assume his vote being on himself is punishment for trying to break the game.


Book:  I see a lot of screwing around and not much hunting from you.  What do you expect the chaos that Pandar promises will do to your scum hunting strategy?

[Zrk2]

Zrk2: How will you be scumhunting?

Well, I'll be pressuring Sir Bayer to see what I can get out of him, and I'll be watching for scumtells from other scumhunting, if those seem particularly scummy, then I will switch my scumhunting over.

Zrk2:  How is alignment-fishing bad?

I never said alignment fishing is bad, I said asking 'Are you scum or townie?' doesn't achieve anything because everyone will claim townie, unless someone goes out on a gambit and claims third party or something. That would be the only useful end, because it would provoke reactions. Other than that it just confirms that everyone understands the point of mafia, to look townie while fulfilling your goal.

[IronyOwl]

IronyOwl: How active are you planning on being?

Hard to say. Active enough, obviously, but I don't have any particular plans or predictions for anything more specific.

So you think interference with scum hunting is good.  That's nice to know, scumbucket.

I think treating this like a vanilla game is bad, so yes.

Figuring out the ones that interfere with scum hunting (mainly those that screw with voting) will be fairly important.  After that, figuring out anything that redirects night actions wholesale is good to know.  I would assume that most anything else is merely an annoyance, unless something crazy and horrible happens.

Now that's interesting.

First Priority: Votes
Second Priority: Night Actions
Third Priority: None, all else are trifles.

Now, what alignment does that sound like, I wonder?

[RedWarrior0]

Suggestion on the Ottofar permavoteself: Deal with it later. If it's a punishment, then it shouldn't be a problem if it doesn't last the night. If it's an ability, well, either: Ottofar gains permaselfvote for some awesome power. It seems odd that he would do it this early, unless the power is to become God Tier Kamina or: Somebody has a day action to force somebody to vote himself, finding it to be a convenient excuse for using the power. Again, Ottofar would seem a strange threat, and this early in the day would be a strange time.

Conclusion: It's from voting the mod or it's a permanent, constant effect. We hadn't seen a votecount before Ottofar voted Pandar, IIRC, so that lead is dead.

MOD: By "Talk freely" does that mean spoilspectators can privately chat with players?

NINJA: I believe that the order was
1. WVS
2. Redirect En masse
3. annoying, unless something crazy and horrible happens

Fuckin demagogue.

[Org]

It's a good thing I decided not to sleep or I would of missed this. Now I can officially kick off my RVS with a vote on Org. Org, what would do you think is the worst thing that can happen to you during the night?

Now I'm tired, see you all tomorrow.

I derped.

[Zrk2]

I derped.

Org, must every post involve a variation  of 'herp a derp'?

[Org]

I derped.

Org, must every post involve a variation  of 'herp a derp'?

herp a derp

[Zrk2]

I derped.

Org, must every post involve a variation  of 'herp a derp'?

herp a derp

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