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[Jurph]

I brought tetrahedrite, an anvil, and a wagon.  I burned the wagon to make charcoal, melted the tetrahedrite to make my only axe, and now... none of my dwarves will chop down trees.  They will move the axe to a weapon stockpile; they will dump it when ordered to; but they will not pick it up and use it to CHOP DOWN AN ARMOK-BLIGHTED TREE!  They apparently want to sit on the surface, one more piece of wood away from having a pick, and admire the EXPOSED VEINS OF HEMATITE.  What's with these guys?

I've enabled and disabled labors manually and with Dwarf Therapist, and nothing seems to change their minds. 

[Haruspex_Pariah]

What version are you using? Any mods? How long did you wait? Did you reclaim the axe after dumping it? Sorry for the questions, woodcutting has been pretty simple in my experience.

[Jurph]

I'm using 31.19 with Mayday graphics and Dwarf Therapist.  I've got a functioning fort in another region folder that is using all of the same settings, and the dwarves in that fort go through wood like termites.  Yes, I remembered to reclaim the item after dumping.  The dwarves are all standing around with No Job (all 7 have woodcutting enabled now) and have been for days. 

Is the presence of driftwood on the map messing them up?  Salt water getting them down? 

Also, for some reason the fort is chugging along at 30 FPS with starting seven on a very flat 3x3 map.  I'm wondering if the two are somehow related...

[sdrawkcabcM tsirU]

Are all of these dwarves possibly in your military? Did you enable woodcutting as well as mining on all dwarves (this does not work as it requires more than 1 weapon)? Have you tried checking to see if woodcutting was enabled manually?

[tolkafox]

Did you try loading/reloading? It sounds like you might have a really fudged up pathing problem, I once got a stone that was -9000 distance and my FPS went waaaaay down.

[Jurph]

Good thoughts, but unfortunately, no:
(1) Nobody's in the military, but I did try assigning a military commander
(2) I've tested various configurations of woodcutting and mining, and I know they're exclusive; doesn't seem to be the problem.  I even disabled mining on my miner to see if he would grab an axe.
(3) I have definitely enabled and disabled woodcutting manually.
(4) I have reloaded the fort several times.  I may actually take the world seed and start over.

Another piece of possibly-related weirdness: some of the European characters in my dwarves' names are causing the error messages associated with them to be truncated.  For instance, instead of "Urist Téngwar won't pick up his axe because he's sulking" I just get "Urist T        ". 

At this point I'm looking at regenning the world with a different name seed to see if that changes anything.  After that, I'll probably replace the raws with vanilla 31.19 raws.

[TheyTarget]

Dwarf Therapist is the problem. You cant use it to enable any profession that uses a tool, ie mining, hunting(Not confirmed I dont hunt), and wood cutting. They will never pick up the tools. I've had glitched miners a few times. I assigning it in therapists, and then unassigning it again, wait for a bit in game then manually assign everything. This sometimes hasn't fixed it, but thats what happened to me.

[Jurph]

Dwarf Therapist is the problem. You cant use it to enable any profession that uses a tool, ie mining, hunting(Not confirmed I dont hunt), and wood cutting. They will never pick up the tools. I've had glitched miners a few times. I assigning it in therapists, and then unassigning it again, wait for a bit in game then manually assign everything. This sometimes hasn't fixed it, but thats what happened to me.

I've heard this in the past as well, which is why I disabled and then re-enabled those labors using Dwarf Therapist, and then tried again doing everything manually.  I don't have any problem believing that it's an intermittent bug that affects only some forts, and I think you're probably right -- something that I've done to this install (perhaps a combination of not-quite-ready-for-31.19 Mayday and Therapist...?) is causing the glitch.

Regardless, though, a manual disable/enable is not fixing the problem. 

(Also: I troubleshoot software pretty often, and I really hate to be the jerk who says "Nope! Tried that!".  Sorry if I'm coming off as smug or unwilling-to-be-helped - I really do appreciate any help you guys can suggest.  Thanks!)

[tolkafox]

Go down there, pick up an axe, then shove it in one of the dwarves hands and point at the nearest tree! Oh, if only...

You don't have 7 axes...Just curious if they're all trying to claim the same axe or something that's completely illogical like that. I would say to try to make a new axe, but...Is all of their hauling enabled? Did you forbid anything on the

• ptions screen? Do you have a burrow? Is the caravan or axe in the path of a wave? Did the axe get swept into the ocean or moved by water? The FPS drop in oceans can happen if the caravan is on the beach and gets hit by a wave covering everything in water. If that's the case, it should go back up when everything dries.
  
  Have you tried applying magma yet? Use DF liquids and pour that red gold on a tree. 1k points if that solution works. If it doesn't, apply it near dwarves as a warning. If that doesn't work, put some on a dwarf.
  
  Did you check the raws to see if woodcutters use axes as tools? Is there a raw for woodcutters uniforms? I hope there is, I haven't found it yet :/
  

[Jurph]

Okay, I think I figured it out.  It seems that when Woodcutting and Carpentry are both enabled on a dwarf, he gets jammed into a tools conflict and can not pick up his axe.  This might be a precursor to the implementation of workshop tools like chisels and carving knives.

I started over with an identical embark, used the manual settings to enable the entire Woodworking category, and got the same jam-up.  As soon as I disabled carpentry on the first of my dwarves, he jumped like a scalded cat, grabbed the axe, and started tearing through trees like a Forgotten Beast through a platoon of cheesemakers.

Thanks for the assistance!  Hopefully I've included enough keywords here that future generations can learn from my folly.

[sdrawkcabcM tsirU]

Hmmm. Good to know. I've never had it happen personally, but I've seen a few posts where people just assumed it was dwarf therapist and left it at that. I wonder what causes it so infrequently?

[Sutremaine]

Okay, I think I figured it out.  It seems that when Woodcutting and Carpentry are both enabled on a dwarf, he gets jammed into a tools conflict and can not pick up his axe.

Does Carpentry interfere with military duty the way Woodcutting and Mining do?

[sdrawkcabcM tsirU]

If there is some kind of uniform for carpentry that only occasionally causes problems, then it's possible. I'm not so sure though, I have never had any issues with carpentry interfering with anything.

[Jurph]

Okay, I think I figured it out.  It seems that when Woodcutting and Carpentry are both enabled on a dwarf, he gets jammed into a tools conflict and can not pick up his axe.

Does Carpentry interfere with military duty the way Woodcutting and Mining do?

It doesn't look like it does, but I have two dorfs in my militia right now (small pop cap) and I could do some differential analysis on them.

[Qinetix]

1.Dump the battleaxe the dwarf has(if it has one , if not skip)
2.Reasing the dwarf to the woodcutting labor (make sure its claimed )
3.The dwarf will get the battleaxe to cut the tree