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Author Topic: Why not add flails to DF?  (Read 3806 times)

Sonlirain

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Why not add flails to DF?
« on: March 01, 2011, 09:17:11 pm »

You know those spikey balls on a chain?
They are availble as traps (at least this is how i imagine spiked balls) but is there any reason there are no hand held versions?
(at least in the official releases)

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Example of a Dwarven flail
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 09:27:22 pm »

Isnt there already morning stars and flails?.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 09:27:36 pm »

The More Weapons thread is already talking about adding all kinds of weapons, and I think SirHoneyBadger went and made a list of about 50 of them, so you might as well add to that one. 

Also, if you want your weapons now, keep in mind that whatever weapons you can come up with a way to stat out are available to you through modding.  There's even a "modding questions" thread to help you out if you need it.

To be more specific about the topic, we already have morningstars, whips, and scourges.  Flails don't always have spikey balls on the end, but are just anything with a hinge or chain, so a scourge is functionally a type of flail. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scourge



EDIT: Haha, there are already flails in the game. Nevermind, then.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 09:29:11 pm »

Implementing new weapons isn't really high on Toady's list, I would imagine, since he focuses on adding features, not content.

If you asked nicely at the modding forum, they might make one for you for the time being.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 09:31:23 pm »

Since there are already flails in the game, all you have to do is just steal one from a goblin's corpse, or if you are too impatient, just mod the dwarven civ to have the ability to manufacture them.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 09:37:34 pm »

I.... want gravity....  in that one image....

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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 09:40:03 pm »

Personally I think Toady will add new weapons once he focuses more on martial arts.

Afterall that is when the weapons start to really differ themselves.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 09:41:13 pm »

I.... want gravity....  in that one image....

That's an obvious photoshopping of the dwarf from D&D's monster manual.  You can tell the flail/morningstar part of it doesn't even look like the rest of the picture.  It's originally a warhammer, and doesn't make the picture look so unbalanced.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 09:45:13 pm »

and that makes me not want gravity how?

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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 09:52:43 pm »

and that makes me not want gravity how?

It's not an argument against what you have said at all.
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 10:23:58 pm »

K... Cause I see him looking up in much the same way that Wile E. Coyote looks down after he's walked 10ft off the cliff, and then POW giant metal ball right in the head.

That's got to be close to a ton of metal, right?

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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 04:54:53 am »

Didn't notice the flails on the wiki.

Wonder if they work like spiked balls...
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 05:42:53 am »

Wooden flails should be the backbone of elven melee weaponry. They're the only wooden weapon dwarves wouldn't sneer at (aside from the bows, of course).
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 10:48:16 am »

Wooden flails should be the backbone of elven melee weaponry. They're the only wooden weapon dwarves wouldn't sneer at (aside from the bows, of course).

Except that a Flail is a threshing tool. Symbolically it may be considered an EVIL weapon.

Which either means no elf would use it or that it would be an extremely common weapon of death!
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Re: Why not add flails to DF?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 11:26:02 am »

TBH i dont see the point of gwarves not being able to make flails.
Flails are heavy lumps of metal on a chain.
And they menace (and actually hurt things) with spikes of "insert your material here".
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