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[nearlyNonexistent]

So... it's stuck at 0%. I've looked up as many search terms as I can, any idea how to get the thing to install?

[Niveras]

I just use the archived downloads, not the installer.

[Frumple]

Yeah, I've never actually managed to get the installer/updater to work, personally. Best bet is probably to run it in admin mode, if you're not already, but it may just not ruddy work on your computer.

Steam version or the .zip is the way to go, though. Both painless (well, barring the minor wallet impact with the former).

[Zireael]

The installer/updater will not work if you are trying to update the -nomusic version. However, it saves a lot of time when updating. I used to grab the nomusic zips, but bit the bullet sometime around 1.2.5 and switched over to the full zip, the updater means the update takes 5 minutes instead of half an hour of downloading everything afresh.

In related news, I succeeded in cloning DG's repository after two attempts (my net hung up in the middle of the first) and have made my first PR for the game engine itself

[Frumple]

I'll admit, I still get the occasional urge to make a genuine stripped down version of T4 that's nothing but ascii and maybe a few small generic particle effects. The actual game code is only like 40 megs, with the rest being graphical or musical frippery (that I, personally, mostly don't give a damn about). It'd be really nice to have a -nographicsormusic version.

More complicated than it looks on the tin, though, and the last couple of tries were beyond my skill and patience. One of these days, maybe...

E:

Spoiler: Level 200 Master, wheee (click to show/hide)

He's entirely incapable of damaging me enough to outpace my passive regen :V

E2: And at level 165, dreadfell is finally complete. Time to roll all over the ambush.

E3: Level 187, finally eat a death. Died to a chronomancy using skeletal master archer that somehow managed to permanently clone itself, like, three times, and was managing to make dozens of turns pass for me without me able to do anything, but still doing damage to me. I think because talents were failing and block was on auto-use, heh.

E4: I shouldn't have gone back DX

Spoiler: I don't even know where I am right now (click to show/hide)

Also, whoever decided chronomancy anomalies (at least I'm assuming that's what's causing it) should be able to destroy walls is a right bastard.

E5: Wow, the infinite dungeon really is the gift that keeps on giving. Admittedly, I was doing the silly thing of clearing out a ID vault (some sort of greater undead thing, fairly sizable, secret doors and junk), but I just ran into the Greater Mummy Lord on ID 7. Character level 15. GML's at 33. Wheeeee.

I was doing so well, too... did eat a death early in the vault to a ruin banshee that killed me on the same turn I killed it, but managed to off another one without dying, as well as a couple of bone horrors and a sanguine, along with your standard greater undead sundries. Mostly cleared the place out, even. Time to run away, though~

[Arcvasti]

Just bought this a few days ago. I'm having quite a bit of fun as an Archmage who relies on spamming Flames + Manathrust + Lightning to kill all the things. Plus I found a reflection shielding rune thing in the Temporal Rift which, with my Aegis skills on, gives me ~600 points of damage absorption. Considering this is my second character, I'd say this is a success. Only died once, to the zero G area of the Temporal Rift[I drank some artifact potion which gave me an extra life].

Also, PTW

[Satarus]

I've not tried a TriBeam Archmage.  I've heard they are pretty good.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Archmages are pretty easy to play as long as you are disciplnied enough to keep some kind of shield on for all the time. Autouse helps here.

Oh, and get a decent amount of mana and way to deal with silence

[Frumple]

Tribeam will entirely trivialize more or less the entire west, barring maybe the last zone or two (this isn't really saying much, since flame just by it-freaking-self can basically do that). Falls off pretty sharply after that point, though. Still does alright dakka, but way less than the mage can really put out, which is a notable problem as magi have a bit of a damage slump in the late-mid to early-end game (which is mostly irrelevant because mage survivability after the very early game is one of the best in the game).

Mind you, you also have basically no reason not to diversify beyond that. You don't really need more than one point in lightning, and no more in flame or manathrust than it takes for them to beam. Plenty of points to spread around after that.

[Robsoie]

If i remember well, as it's been so long since i unlocked them, there are several goodies to unlock for the Archmages that makes them more awesome.

I don't remember what Archimages were like before i unlocked those goodies.

[Arcvasti]

Just bought this a few days ago. I'm having quite a bit of fun as an Archmage who relies on spamming Flames + Manathrust + Lightning to kill all the things. Plus I found a reflection shielding rune thing in the Temporal Rift which, with my Aegis skills on, gives me ~600 points of damage absorption. Considering this is my second character, I'd say this is a success. Only died once, to the zero G area of the Temporal Rift[I drank some artifact potion which gave me an extra life].

^Yeah, he's dead. Got wrecked by the Master because I didn't have a physical Wild Infusion to deal with his freezing[Swapped it out for a mental one in the Daikara to combat snow giant confusion and forgot to switch it back]. Then played a Temporal Warden, who was kinda fun up until I decided to pick a fight with the Grand Corrupter[Damn his lifestealing abilities]. And now I'm a Paradox Mage, who is HELLA fun. Gravity Spike + Repulsion Blast on even huge vault rooms kill basically anything after a rotation or three. Plus rotations are easy if you hit a bunch of enemies with Temporal Bolt for the cooldowns. I've got an actual reliable stun[Stop], a way to get annoying bosses out of my face[Time Skip] and I'm pretty resistant to disables[Time Shield + Dimensional Shift]. Time Shield isn't nearly as good as Archmage shields for pure damage absorption, but them + a ridiculous Regeneration Infusion[~450 health over 5 turns] has been enough against most enemies thus far. And minor Paradox anomalies are more often beneficial then not. I've only died once, to a halfling slinger in a random encounter who silenced me and then did ~400 damage to me the next turn. All in all, I think I might actually have a chance against the Master this time. If not, there's still a whole bunch of races and classes I've unlocked that I haven't even played yet. This is like the only roguelike where I don't feel frustrated about dying. It just means I get to try something new.

[Darkmere]

The huge class/race combination list is definitely part of the appeal. You'll find something to like eventually, guaranteed.

[Emma]

If playing a summoner is it worth getting some ranged weaponry such as a bow? I've played a summoner but she was really fragile so getting in close quarters was only for last resorts, would some ranged weaponry be a better choice?

[Darkmere]

Summoners need mindstars for mindpower boosts. You never want to attack anything yourself, ever. At all. If something survives that wall of teeth and flesh and claws you hurled at it from around the corner, you should be running somewhere safe to rethink your strategy.

[Emma]

I can't argue with that logic. I eventually was killed by the Horned Horror, it killed my drake, hydra and war-hound if I recall correctly but I was staying my distance and it only got me close to it with a talent of some sort.