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[Alkhemia]

What the biggest size you can make something? Is there a limit?

[arzzult]

I don't think there is a size limit unless it's a number large enough to overflow your computer's memory. Which would be astronomically high.

[Max White]

There is a interesting way to test this. DF is made in C++, and from memmory the biggest primitive data type you would want to use for this would be the unsigned long long, and those go up to 18446744073709551615, so make a creature of that size, plus one, and see what happens. There could be a chance toady is using a different data type or structure, maybe he's own even, that can go larger.

[Krelos]

Then butcher it and cook the meat into a single meal worth more than a dozen fortresses by virtue of the 15 billion units it will have.

Or, no, I guess it doesn't treat butchered meat as a single unbreaking stack for cooking anymore.
This is a tragic loss for all dwarfendom.

[Alkhemia]

There is a interesting way to test this. DF is made in C++, and from memmory the biggest primitive data type you would want to use for this would be the unsigned long long, and those go up to 18446744073709551615, so make a creature of that size, plus one, and see what happens. There could be a chance toady is using a different data type or structure, maybe he's own even, that can go larger.

At 18446744073709551616 it work in arena but when I butcher it just disappeared

Edit: nvm the other one worked

3747 meat
2200 bones

 

[Grimlocke]

Possibly size variations can push it over its limit. That would explain why one disappeared while the other didnt.

[Alkhemia]

Possibly size variations can push it over its limit. That would explain why one disappeared while the other didnt.

It was in pieces from slamming into the wall when it just disappeared not when it was just a corpse I don't know what effect that has though.

[Urist Da Vinci]

There is a interesting way to test this. DF is made in C++, and from memmory the biggest primitive data type you would want to use for this would be the unsigned long long, and those go up to 18446744073709551615, so make a creature of that size, plus one, and see what happens. There could be a chance toady is using a different data type or structure, maybe he's own even, that can go larger.

At 18446744073709551616 it work in arena but when I butcher it just disappeared

Edit: nvm the other one worked

3747 meat
2200 bones

That is the same butchering result that you get from a size 184467441 creature, so the game is only reading the first several numbers, or something else is going on.

[KarolineDianne]

At some point, creatures that huge really need to take up multiple tiles. That's a little silly.

[Urist Da Vinci]

At some point, creatures that huge really need to take up multiple tiles. That's a little silly.

A creature over size 6750000000, taking up one tile, has a density (mass/approx. tile size) large enough for nuclear fusion to occur.

[Remalle]

Is it massive enough to collapse into itself and create a hole in space and time?

[Alkhemia]

Is it massive enough to collapse into itself and create a hole in space and time?

18,446,744,073,709,551,616 centimeters = 19.4986403 light years, So bigger then the distances to all the star listed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars there......holy crap but yeah it make a black hole.

[Urist Da Vinci]

Is it massive enough to collapse into itself and create a hole in space and time?

18,446,744,073,709,551,616 centimeters = 19.4986403 light years, So bigger then the distances to all the star listed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars there......holy crap but yeah it make a black hole.

Creature size is in cm^3, so a 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 cm^3 block would be a cube 26.4 km (16.4 miles) long/wide/tall.

Such an object, if compressed to fit onto a single tile, would still not be dense enough to be a black hole.

[Max White]

Is it massive enough to collapse into itself and create a hole in space and time?

Creature size relates to volume, not mass, so we can not say for sure. If it had the same density of water then no. I am not sure on the maths on this, but some sort of super dense matter like neutronium might be able to.

[Alkhemia]

Is it massive enough to collapse into itself and create a hole in space and time?

18,446,744,073,709,551,616 centimeters = 19.4986403 light years, So bigger then the distances to all the star listed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_stars there......holy crap but yeah it make a black hole.

Creature size is in cm^3, so a 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 cm^3 block would be a cube 26.4 km (16.4 miles) long/wide/tall.

Such an object, if compressed to fit onto a single tile, would still not be dense enough to be a black hole.

Ah, I thought it was just in centimeters but that still really big....a very big goat, it still weak though