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[Pan]

Gonna be playing DF again. Should I try 3.19? I've read about the scarcity on metals, the need for pastures, eggs, ceramics, bees. Are the new features worth the problems? Or should I stick to an earlier version? And what's all this on dwarves making leather out of their own skin? 

Just asking before I download.

[BishopX]

I'm enjoying it. Bees are cool, pastures are cool, chickens are awesome (put some traps around your empty nest boxes though). Proper use of the site finder can ensure you have some metals. No where near the amounts you had in in .18 though.

[metime00]

It's near the end of bugfixing two weeks. Wait for the bugfixed version if you can.

[Pan]

Thanks to Bishop's comment, I'll be finding it very hard to do so, metime00 

[Diverso]

I'm enjoying it. Bees are cool, pastures are cool, chickens are awesome (put some traps around your empty nest boxes though). Proper use of the site finder can ensure you have some metals. No where near the amounts you had in in .18 though.

Cyan one and gypsum all the time actually :/

[Mantonio]

I'd honestly suggest you wait for a bit. Right now stuff like bees causing sieges in the first year and Cinnabar, Microcline and Cobaltite counting as metals randomly assigned to a map, are really annoying. Plus having metal suddenly scarce without having the trading framework necessary to compensate is just... tedious.

[Pan]

Yes. I know, and I will. All the same, I was very tempted by that comment. 

[BishopX]

On the other hand food is now an oder of magnitude easier to acquire. Between the farming changes and nest boxes I was self-sufficient by mid summer of the first year.

I wouldn't recommend starting your fort to end all forts in .19, but there are a whole bunch of improvements.

[Vercingetorix]

It's worth it to familiarize yourself with some of the cool new features but I'd wait until the next round of bugfixes before getting completely in to it. 

[kilakan]

though marksmen are broken again, they won't pick up ammo anymore..

[Pan]

though marksmen are broken again, they won't pick up ammo anymore..

I am sad to hear that.

[ral]

If the metal issues won't drive you nuts then go ahead and give it a try, just make sure to pick a site with shallow metal, deep metal, and start some exploratory mining early so you can figure out what your 2 or 3 metals are.

I personally don't stress about the lack of iron ore. Right now my guys are running around in copper armor with silver battle axes and they're kicking ass. My deep metal is gold which I already have 1,000 bars of that I'm having trouble figuring out what to do with. Everyone already has their own personal gold chest and cabinet. All they need now are gold walls and floors.

Every new feature but pastures you can just ignore if you want. In my case I just slaughter all my grazing animals as soon as I get one since I ended up with years and years worth of prepared egg meals from about 20 nest boxes.

[SirAaronIII]

Make tons of gold goblets and sell them for $$$.
OT: I think I don't like .19 as much as .18, but that's probably because the over-abundance of metals has spoiled me. I do like the new animals, though.

[krisslanza]

I kind of like the scarcity of metals a bit, it makes things like leather and bone more valuable. In .18 I was just swimming in iron, there was no purpose to a lot of the other materials in the game - iron armor is obviously better then leather or bone. Plus if you have iron and flux, well... may as well hold out for steel.

[Lamphare]

bugfix .20(i suppose that's the versiong number) is out very soon.
so i'd say now .19 is only worth a shot for non-serious play, i.e. trying out the new features.