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[TurkeyXIII]

All minerals are considered metals for the purpose of the embark screen right now. Even the useless stuff like microcline.

I doubt that.  My embark/dfreveal/abandon experiments didn't show anything to support that theory, and there's no reason to not use the [METAL_ORE:<metal>:<probability>] tag for the purposes of showing stuff in the embark screen.

[_DivideByZero_]

Cinnabar and cobaltite, despite having no use at all but a unique color (only with cobaltite, too), count as metals. I've had so many cases where my only deep metal was mercury. Useless.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Deep metal, eh?

Microcline! Praise the miners!

[Daetrin]

I'm really surprised nobody has said this.

This thread is now diamonds.

Edit:

Cinnabar and cobaltite, despite having no use at all but a unique color (only with cobaltite, too), count as metals. I've had so many cases where my only deep metal was mercury. Useless.

While I know the time is off, I kind of wish we could make mercury fulminate out of cinnibar.

[Supercharazad]

I'm really surprised nobody has said this.

This thread is now diamonds.

Edit:

Cinnabar and cobaltite, despite having no use at all but a unique color (only with cobaltite, too), count as metals. I've had so many cases where my only deep metal was mercury. Useless.

While I know the time is off, I kind of wish we could make mercury fulminate out of cinnibar.

This is not Minecraft.

This thread is now Adamantine

[IT 000]

This thread is now !!dwarf!!

[Musashi]

I'm on a !!horse!!.

[noppa354]

I'm on a !!☼<<☼Tower-cap Boat☼>>☼!! (were my symbols correct? it is ☼<< and >>☼ for masterful decorations, right?)

[Urist Imiknorris]

(were my symbols correct? it is ☼<< and >>☼ for masterful decorations, right?)

Yes. If you want to be even more accurate you could use « (Alt+174) and » (Alt+175).

[noppa354]

I didn't know those existed, no wonder it looked so strange!

[Khift]

All minerals are considered metals for the purpose of the embark screen right now. Even the useless stuff like microcline.

I doubt that.  My embark/dfreveal/abandon experiments didn't show anything to support that theory, and there's no reason to not use the [METAL_ORE:<metal>:<probability>] tag for the purposes of showing stuff in the embark screen.

I've done a lot of embarking in .19 both vanilla and with various tweaks to try and make a mod that fixes the metal scarcity issue and I can say that beyond a shadow of a doubt that fluff stones do count as metals. If you embark on a map with no metals listed, you get no fluff stones. If you embark on a map with only a couple metals, there is an appreciable chance that they will be all fluff stones. I've seen it too many times to count. The tl;dr is, metals compete with fluff stones for space on the map, no doubt about it.

[_DivideByZero_]

And my repeated failures at getting a nice embark with precious metals, iron, flux, and fuel confirms the above. Countless times have I embarked in a location only to get massive amounts of cobaltite as my metal.


On another note, I finally found an awesome embark on a volcano with iron and flux, but the lack of anything else precious saddens me.

[Girlinhat]

As a quick and dirty fix, you could take the non-ores out of the metal file, and place them in the layer file, or somewhere else.  This would, hopefully, put non-ores as regular stone and only count the contents of the minerals file as shallow/deep metal/s

[Urist Imiknorris]

Yeah, but then there'd be whole layers of microcline.

[Girlinhat]

*Rubs the shiny blue stone on herself*
Sorry what?  I couldn't hear you over the sound of my microcline-fall in my legendary, bright blue dining hall!