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Socialist

16 (32%)

Green

8 (16%)

Peace and Freedom

2 (4%)

Democratic

1 (2%)

Transhumanist

11 (22%)

Libertarian

8 (16%)

Republican

2 (4%)

Constitution

2 (4%)

Total Members Voted: 49

[Elephant Parade]

Top ideologies are Foulterism (?), Marxist feminism (??), and anarcha-feminism (???), all at 75% exactly. Worst (weird way to say "least favored", but hey) ideologies are classical liberalism at -40%, fusionism Fourierism at -57%, and paleoconservatism at -90% (!). Comments:

• Feminism is good, but I'm not really a fan of anarchy (and I'm not reading the Wikipedia article for Foulterism at 11 PM, lmao)
• "Fusionism" sounds much cooler than "Fourierism" and if you disagree you are bad and wrong
• I've never met a self-proclaimed "classical liberal" who actually gave a shit about modern liberal causes

^{I suppose it's in the name, but still}

[Baffler]

So many Marxists. The real question though is: are my beliefs ridiculous, or is the test ridiculous? For whatever reason they seem to be all over the place. I got:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Result Link.

Compassionate Conservatism: 83%
Not sure what this is really even supposed to mean, the "more information" link is a dead end but both the portrait and the required reading are George W. Bush so it seems I'm just In Accordance with Dubya Thought, though I doubt this number would be as high if the quiz asked more than a few questions about topics other than social issues.

Social Democracy: 83%
I could live with this.

Pancasila: 88%
Only one I had no idea about before taking this quiz. Meaning "Five Pillars" (possibly a reference to Islam's Five Pillars?) it is the philosophical foundation of the Indonesian government. The pillars are religious belief, human dignity, nationalism, equality, and representative democracy. Sounds neat I guess but I don't know enough about Indonesian politics to judge it in the real world.

Strasserism 83%
Nazism but with commie flavor. Not sure how this made it onto the list tbh - maybe this quiz really was made by a Kaiserreich dev. Maybe we do agree on a lot of things if you gloss over the whole "some 'people' are actually not" business, which I assume it has, but real world Strasserites get little sympathy from me.

Opposed ideologies:
Mutualism -62%
Bleeding-heart Libertarianism -62%
Minarchism -50%

None of these seem good to me (or 80% of Bay12 from the looks of it) so it has that going for it at least.

[notquitethere]

The test said I was Anarcha-feminism 100%, so I went and read some Voltairine de Cleyre. The test is good insofar as it points to actual ideologies but bad insofar as there aren't enough wedge questions. Its possible to get 100% in 11 flavours of marxism and anarchism simultaneously, for instance.

I also got Paleoconservatism -90% which somewhat to be expected.

[Haspen]

*warning* due to a sudden influx of people using this non-profit site, there have been several outages. We are looking to change our infrastructure shortly, and appreciate your patience.

Heh.

Your top ideologies are:

Compassionate conservatism 67%
Kemalism 75%
Social democracy 67%
Third Way 75%

Your worst ideologies are:

Anarcho-primitivism -38%
Mutualism -50%
National-anarchism -38%
Queer anarchism -40%

Well then.

[scriver]

Did you agree or disagree strongly with even a single one of the answers, happen? xD

[Reudh]

To be honest, some of the questions had a lot of grey area between the choices.

Mine is mostly socialist, but I don't think of myself as socialist.

Classical Marxism: 75%

green syndicalism: 75%

guild socialism: 75%

social democracy: 75%

neozapatismosim (wiki link went to the feminism section) 75%

marxist feminism: 88%

third way (is that rand paul there?): 88%



anarcho-primitism: -25%

agorism (revolutionary market anarchism apparently): -10%

paleoconservatism (back to the stone age! jk): -30%

Tony Blair, nah. He was in theory a centrist british prime minister who advocated for social liberalism but economic conservatism. Fairly standard "democratic socialist", though with no radicality to it.

[Haspen]

Did you agree or disagree strongly with even a single one of the answers, happen? xD

Only with those very few about government regulations ;v

[smjjames]

So many Marxists. The real question though is: are my beliefs ridiculous, or is the test ridiculous? For whatever reason they seem to be all over the place. I got:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Result Link.

Compassionate Conservatism: 83%
Not sure what this is really even supposed to mean, the "more information" link is a dead end but both the portrait and the required reading are George W. Bush so it seems I'm just In Accordance with Dubya Thought, though I doubt this number would be as high if the quiz asked more than a few questions about topics other than social issues.

Social Democracy: 83%
I could live with this.

Pancasila: 88%
Only one I had no idea about before taking this quiz. Meaning "Five Pillars" (possibly a reference to Islam's Five Pillars?) it is the philosophical foundation of the Indonesian government. The pillars are religious belief, human dignity, nationalism, equality, and representative democracy. Sounds neat I guess but I don't know enough about Indonesian politics to judge it in the real world.

Strasserism 83%
Nazism but with commie flavor. Not sure how this made it onto the list tbh - maybe this quiz really was made by a Kaiserreich dev. Maybe we do agree on a lot of things if you gloss over the whole "some 'people' are actually not" business, which I assume it has, but real world Strasserites get little sympathy from me.

Opposed ideologies:
Mutualism -62%
Bleeding-heart Libertarianism -62%
Minarchism -50%

None of these seem good to me (or 80% of Bay12 from the looks of it) so it has that going for it at least.

The test said I was Anarcha-feminism 100%, so I went and read some Voltairine de Cleyre. The test is good insofar as it points to actual ideologies but bad insofar as there aren't enough wedge questions. Its possible to get 100% in 11 flavours of marxism and anarchism simultaneously, for instance.

I also got Paleoconservatism -90% which somewhat to be expected.

I did note that there was a lot of grey area and ambiguousity for some questions which might have been oversimplified or there are more facets to it.

When I went to do the quiz with all of the answers as disagree for the fun of it, I got this message when I tried to submit the quiz:
"We ask for your forgiveness, but our website is down for maintenance and upgrading until the upcoming Monday.

You can still contact us using the We appreciate your understanding. "

I can't help but wonder if we caused the spike in usage, heh. Maybe we should say hi to the author of that thing.

edit2: It apparently switched to maintainence mode while I was doing the quiz I guess.

[scriver]

To be honest, some of the questions had a lot of grey area between the choices.

Mine is mostly socialist, but I don't think of myself as socialist.

Classical Marxism: 75%

green syndicalism: 75%

guild socialism: 75%

social democracy: 75%

neozapatismosim (wiki link went to the feminism section) 75%

marxist feminism: 88%

third way (is that rand paul there?): 88%



anarcho-primitism: -25%

agorism (revolutionary market anarchism apparently): -10%

paleoconservatism (back to the stone age! jk): -30%

Tony Blair, nah. He was in theory a centrist british prime minister who advocated for social liberalism but economic conservatism. Fairly standard "democratic socialist", though with no radicality to it.

Tony Blair is the picture of the neo-liberal right hiding in social democratic colours. The kind of guy who literally idealises Margaret Thatcher while claiming to be part of "Labour". They are hypocritical right-wing shills and they have been the literal death of the social democratic movement. They are the number one reason people who think Sweden is some kind of left-wing heaven are actually thinking about some hypothetical 40-years ago place that actual Sweden has been moving further and further away from during since the 70's.

[smjjames]

Neo-liberal right? That's like, some kind of oxymoron because those two are opposites.

[scriver]

Smj - I am entirely positive you have been on this site that the difference between how the US and the rest of the world sees the word "liberal" must have had to come up at least five times or more.

Editendum: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

[smjjames]

I was just commenting on how it sounds like an oxymoron.

[Loud Whispers]

Tony Blair is the picture of the neo-liberal right hiding in social democratic colours. The kind of guy who literally idealises Margaret Thatcher while claiming to be part of "Labour". They are hypocritical right-wing shills and they have been the literal death of the social democratic movement. They are the number one reason people who think Sweden is some kind of left-wing heaven are actually thinking about some hypothetical 40-years ago place that actual Sweden has been moving further and further away from during since the 70's.

For clarification, Blair didn't claim to be a part of labour, he claimed to be apart from labour as new labour. Social justice is the way, not justice, and there can be a synthesis of socialism and capitalism, using a free market to deliver social justice. Thatcher and Blair had one thing in common: They are both neoliberals, though I'd say Thatcher is probably more of a proto-neoliberal where Blair was an acolyte. Otherwise I wholly agree with your assessment: I just disagree that Blair hid his ambitions, rather he told people exactly what they wanted to hear and they believed him, with his perfect focus-group crafted media control. And oh boy, were people livid when they found out just what it meant to see what they voted for implemented. It's like those people in France who voted for Macron on the basis that he'd privatise and deregulate the state, then got surprised when Macron sold and deregulated the French market and state, not aware that they had voted for exactly that.

[Bumber]

Results

Your top ideologies are:
Classical Marxism 88%
De Leonism 80%
Guild socialism 100%

Your worst ideologies are:
Bleeding-heart libertarianism -88%
Minarchism -83%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Paleolibertarianism -83%
Questionable questions:

16. Women do not, but should, share the same rights as men
As the single question related to feminism, I feel the first part ruins it. Whether they do or not varies wildly with where you live, to say nothing of right versus opportunity.

34. We should try to limit meat and/or dairy consumption as much as possible
Not the question itself, but the pros and cons debate this on animal cruelty and environment, with fallacious arguments on both sides.
What about health effects? What if we could grow the meat in a lab? Methane-reducing algae? Should we care about fish? Dairy isn't even mentioned.

[smjjames]

It did feel like there were grey areas for some questions.