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Highest Irrelevant American Third-Party Result (Major Party Results Will Be Bullied)

Socialist
- 17 (33.3%)
Green
- 8 (15.7%)
Peace and Freedom
- 2 (3.9%)
Democratic
- 1 (2%)
Transhumanist
- 11 (21.6%)
Libertarian
- 8 (15.7%)
Republican
- 2 (3.9%)
Constitution
- 2 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 50


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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5055 on: April 30, 2017, 09:02:12 pm »

Huh, that's a fairly moderate set to get matched with revolutionary socialism.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5056 on: April 30, 2017, 09:13:36 pm »

commie shit snipped

I figured ye for a white army person, not a red dweeb.

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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5057 on: April 30, 2017, 09:15:10 pm »

For fun, I decided to answer only one option and see the results.

All of them result in Centrist. All neutral results in an exact 50/50 split on all four scales.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5058 on: April 30, 2017, 09:16:30 pm »

For fun, I decided to answer only one option and see the results.

All of them result in Centrist. All neutral results in an exact 50/50 split on all four scales.

This is good news but unsurprising. It means it's not biased at all, at least in question phrasing.

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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5059 on: April 30, 2017, 09:17:09 pm »

Kot is literally a commie, absolutely disgraceful.

Who else is up for a White Terror? Let's show these damn commies they're not the only ones who know how to purge.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5060 on: April 30, 2017, 09:35:28 pm »

I pose to you the same question as I did A Thing, LW: Why are civil issues more strongly held by you than than the economy, society, and diplomacy?
On issues of economics I don't want socialism or objectivism, thus I don't have any particular polarization one way or another there. Societal axis, once more I have no polarization one way or another, seeking to subvert the idea that tradition/progress is an axis in opposition. Diplomatic axis was one of the two ones really polarized held more strongly, which no doubt is a result for my steadfast desire to keep the EU off my clay, ambivalence to the UN, and support of the nation-state conducting multilateral diplomatic exchange with other nation-states, instead of unilateral exchange between few entities.

In regards to the Civil axis, why that's the most strongly held values rather than the others is interesting. To start with, the simplest way to answer that is that my opinions on civil issues were all strongly held one way or another, where in all previous ones there were questions which I sought to find the mean or was not fully enamoured with the prospect of one or another.
A more detailed breakdown would be that on issues like drugs and law enforcement, usage of violence against the state and the usage of the state to affect the people in some manner all in very clear, support one way or another.
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So yeah, it's mostly out of pragmatism and culture that these are the issues I find least middle grounds on, and have settled on concrete positions (surveillance aside, I do not like the regulation of ideas & their communication nor anything approaching the very sort). I love the idea of maximum freedoming, however I hesitate to make the transition from idealizing anarchism/libertarianism/minarchism and implementing it. To use the most graphic example: I would very much like to support the liberalization of UK gun laws, however I do not trust all members of British society to use this right responsibly, thus am not concerned that the state holds a monopoly on legitimate weapon stockpiles.

I can only speculate, but it might be that in the context of European politics civil issues are the area where the traditional nationalism expresses itself. Asserting superiority or starting trade wars no longer makes sense, so these convictions surface in different ways. Hell, I reckon I do the same thing from a Unionist point of view, at least when I ignore the possibility of the Union taking action on the global stage.
I would have thought traditional nationalism expresses itself in Europe more on diplomatic issues, most obviously showing up on nation-state organization versus continental-superstate organization? Also as an aside, do you consider the UK in the context of European politics, or something apart as those in the British isles draw distinction between the isles and the continent? I hypothesize that in European politics the reason why pan-Europeans and European nationalists favour increasing authoritarianism in response to each other is because, although one is yearning for a continental-state and another for a nation-state, both are ultimately trying to build "states" in the way Europeans have been building states - with centralized power, and always centralizing. As far as I can tell whether liberal, conservative, socialist or nationalist, all wish to centralize somewhere - only the greens occasionally buck this trend.

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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5061 on: April 30, 2017, 09:54:29 pm »

-snip-

Our results are suspiciously similar.

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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5062 on: April 30, 2017, 10:13:51 pm »

Our results are suspiciously similar.
Wew lad, I also agree with your reasoning to boot

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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5063 on: April 30, 2017, 10:52:25 pm »

-snip-

Our results are suspiciously similar.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5064 on: April 30, 2017, 10:56:50 pm »

That's because you're a bunch of filthy cryptoconservative pseudo-neutrals. Not as bad as the damn commies, at least.

But no, politcal-axes tests by definition exclude the possibility of a person with "conflicing" ideas, painting them as neutral. Consider the wording of the middle answer: "Neutral/Unsure". Those are two very different stances. One is "I have a position, and it is either too complex or too moderate to be expressed by yes/no response", while the other is "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
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Meanwhile, I could describe the results of the majority of this forum as "more social/peaceful/liberal/progressive than I was."

I mean really, most of my results were close enough to the middle that I could call them sampling error.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5065 on: April 30, 2017, 11:00:12 pm »

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I felt like these eight values don't line up that well with my actual values, and so my generally moderate appearance is in many ways an artifact of the test not knowing my actual reasons for some (conflicting,by their scheme) things and asking me irrelevant stuff.

But I felt less like that than with most of these political tests, so I guess this is a good one.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5066 on: April 30, 2017, 11:37:51 pm »

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I like that they alternated the orientation so not all the correct positions would be on the same side.

But really, some of the questions weren't very good. Like is "excessive government intervention bad for the economy"? Well, if it's excessive, then by definition that's too much, or "quality education is a right of all people"; I think even a 5th century Kazakh goatherd would answer yes to that.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5067 on: April 30, 2017, 11:42:16 pm »

Someone who disagreed might say something like "some people are stupid. They shouldn't have the right to waste the institution's time going through the motions of their inevitable failure out of a misguided sense of fair play."
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5068 on: April 30, 2017, 11:44:14 pm »

I believe the response would be that, if you're a fan of a command economy or somesuch, that you don't even believe excessive government intervention in the economy is possible.

There are plenty of people who don't think everybody deserves quality education. The political mainstream is tied to mostly supporting the existence (though not necessarily quality) of public schools because most voters are tied to them, but this quiz goes beyond the political mainstream, as we've seen from some results on here.

Even something as common as right-libertarianism would say that education isn't a right, because as a right it is funded by taxation, which is theft. Instead, schools should be private institutions which people should choose to give their wealth to, or not.
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Re: Shit, let's be Yet Another Political Axis Test
« Reply #5069 on: April 30, 2017, 11:55:18 pm »

Yeah i found this political test a few week back on 4chan.

I wouldnt put a lot of weight on the names they assign, they even said themselves its a work in progress. Nonetheless, I had basically the same results.

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