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Highest Irrelevant American Third-Party Result (Major Party Results Will Be Bullied)

Socialist
- 17 (33.3%)
Green
- 8 (15.7%)
Peace and Freedom
- 2 (3.9%)
Democratic
- 1 (2%)
Transhumanist
- 11 (21.6%)
Libertarian
- 8 (15.7%)
Republican
- 2 (3.9%)
Constitution
- 2 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 50


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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #135 on: February 26, 2011, 01:53:59 pm »

That's not even that horribly different. Three out of four of the characteristics are the same (and two of those are pretty close in value), and ALL of the characteristics are fairly low-valued, implying you're pretty near the middle of the spectrum on everything.  I remember reading that these tests end up generally having a bell-curve distribution on all four of the axes, so I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people end up kind of in the middle. 
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #136 on: February 26, 2011, 02:07:03 pm »

Brilliant! Finally another conspiracy theorist!

I don't even understand why it is called that way...
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #137 on: February 26, 2011, 02:07:40 pm »

These tests are a load of crap.  Whoever said it's just a glorified "which pokemon are you" was right on the money.

Consider the following:
- it's culturally biased
- the strong wording of the questions eliminates nuance - a question like "I always like to plan ahead" is a joke.  Sure, you're going to plan ahead to buy a good lock for your front door and install it properly, but almost nobody plans how many seconds they're going to take to drink a can of pepsi unless they're OCD
- countless experiments show that people respond similarly to many stimuli regardless of personality
- there's an element of feedback loop and self-fulfilled prophecy. If you think "I'm an introvert" you're more likely to remain an introvert
- there are a million variables that influence how you'll handle the situation
-try taking the test sober, tired, drunk, after skydiving, stoned, tripping, after being dumped - see if you get the same responses
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #138 on: February 26, 2011, 02:11:00 pm »

I've heard your results can change over time.  People change over time after all.  I've taken this test twice, first time was a few years ago and again recently, and although the results were different it pegged me pretty well both times.
I took it last night, and again this morning because I had forgotten to post and lost the tab with the results. The results swung by ~10-20 points, with the exception of the last one, when I was actively trying to answer the same as I had last night... :-\


I used to score INTP, with much more pronounced scores on all of them. I've also seen much longer tests, with a scale rather than simple yes/no responses.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2011, 02:20:49 pm »

These tests are a load of crap.  Whoever said it's just a glorified "which pokemon are you" was right on the money.

Consider the following:
- it's culturally biased
- the strong wording of the questions eliminates nuance - a question like "I always like to plan ahead" is a joke.  Sure, you're going to plan ahead to buy a good lock for your front door and install it properly, but almost nobody plans how many seconds they're going to take to drink a can of pepsi unless they're OCD
- countless experiments show that people respond similarly to many stimuli regardless of personality
- there's an element of feedback loop and self-fulfilled prophecy. If you think "I'm an introvert" you're more likely to remain an introvert
- there are a million variables that influence how you'll handle the situation
-try taking the test sober, tired, drunk, after skydiving, stoned, tripping, after being dumped - see if you get the same responses

Oh? My results led me to a wikipedia article of a man who thinks exactly the same as I do.

IDENTICALLY. You just don't get that sort of organization from bullshit.

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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #140 on: February 26, 2011, 02:23:15 pm »

These tests are a load of crap.  Whoever said it's just a glorified "which pokemon are you" was right on the money.

Consider the following:
- it's culturally biased
- the strong wording of the questions eliminates nuance - a question like "I always like to plan ahead" is a joke.  Sure, you're going to plan ahead to buy a good lock for your front door and install it properly, but almost nobody plans how many seconds they're going to take to drink a can of pepsi unless they're OCD
- countless experiments show that people respond similarly to many stimuli regardless of personality
- there's an element of feedback loop and self-fulfilled prophecy. If you think "I'm an introvert" you're more likely to remain an introvert
- there are a million variables that influence how you'll handle the situation
-try taking the test sober, tired, drunk, after skydiving, stoned, tripping, after being dumped - see if you get the same responses
It is rather flawed, yes, but it is not entirely useless.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #141 on: February 26, 2011, 02:37:51 pm »

Especially if you take it more as an assessment on how you are at the moment, rather than how you have to be like.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #142 on: February 26, 2011, 02:41:04 pm »

These tests are a load of crap.  Whoever said it's just a glorified "which pokemon are you" was right on the money.

Consider the following:
- it's culturally biased
- the strong wording of the questions eliminates nuance - a question like "I always like to plan ahead" is a joke.  Sure, you're going to plan ahead to buy a good lock for your front door and install it properly, but almost nobody plans how many seconds they're going to take to drink a can of pepsi unless they're OCD
- countless experiments show that people respond similarly to many stimuli regardless of personality
- there's an element of feedback loop and self-fulfilled prophecy. If you think "I'm an introvert" you're more likely to remain an introvert
- there are a million variables that influence how you'll handle the situation
-try taking the test sober, tired, drunk, after skydiving, stoned, tripping, after being dumped - see if you get the same responses
God what is with you people, if i give you guys the real IQ tests would you do it? (it lasts 3 hours)
Tests are always never perfect, we have adjust these everytime as time flies. You can't appeal to everybody and this isn't a complex test either just a simple personality. You want a second opinion? GO see a Shrink.

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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #143 on: February 26, 2011, 02:54:27 pm »

I'd do it out of curiosity.  I wouldn't take it seriously as a measure of intelligence, though.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #144 on: February 26, 2011, 02:58:28 pm »

I went on the INTJ forum that it linked me to, and after I posted a link to Bay 12 after making a few posts they permanently banned me. Wow. Also, I didn't see anywhere to appeal it. That's crazy.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #145 on: February 26, 2011, 03:26:10 pm »

God what is with you people, if i give you guys the real IQ tests would you do it? (it lasts 3 hours)
No. Way. The last time I did it I was bored out of my mind, and the results were probably wrong too.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #146 on: February 26, 2011, 05:13:30 pm »

These tests are a load of crap.  Whoever said it's just a glorified "which pokemon are you" was right on the money.

Consider the following:
- it's culturally biased
- the strong wording of the questions eliminates nuance - a question like "I always like to plan ahead" is a joke.  Sure, you're going to plan ahead to buy a good lock for your front door and install it properly, but almost nobody plans how many seconds they're going to take to drink a can of pepsi unless they're OCD
- countless experiments show that people respond similarly to many stimuli regardless of personality
- there's an element of feedback loop and self-fulfilled prophecy. If you think "I'm an introvert" you're more likely to remain an introvert
- there are a million variables that influence how you'll handle the situation
-try taking the test sober, tired, drunk, after skydiving, stoned, tripping, after being dumped - see if you get the same responses
Once again, this test has been developed over around a hundred years by hundreds, if not thousands, of psychologists. Who are you to just come along and say it's all wrong? This test is grouping almost 7 billion people into SIXTEEN categories, what gives you the idea it's going to be 100% accurate at all? Psychology is inherently pseudoscience. There is NOTHING that can change that. The brain and conscience is probably the only truly chaotic system in the entire universe. We can't predict what it will do. This test is as good as we're going to get because it's been researched and developed for so long. A "which Pokemon are you" test was probably thought up in fifteen minutes.

Also, these tests are based off of what you USUALLY do. Who's really going to think a question of whether they always plan ahead or not completely literal? And being sober, tired, stoned, whatever, those all change your personality and/or perception temporarily. They affect ANY test you take.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #147 on: February 26, 2011, 05:25:57 pm »

Developed by hundreds or thousands of psychologists?  Looks like a quiz designed by a website that specialises in selling tests.  I can't find the names of any psychologists attached to it at all.

Although I'd say this is less "What pokemon are you" and more horoscope like.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #148 on: February 26, 2011, 05:28:20 pm »

Taking the test a second time I got INTJ. A cross between INTJ and my previous, ISTP, seems to describe me pretty well.
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Re: Shit, lets be Myers-Briggs.
« Reply #149 on: February 26, 2011, 05:30:21 pm »

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Once again, this test has been developed over around a hundred years by hundreds, if not thousands, of psychologists. Who are you to just come along and say it's all wrong?

Actually it was developed almost a hundred years ago by a poli sci major and her mom based on things they'd read in Jung's writings.  The US national academy of sciences wrote a critique of it decades later that called out flaws in its validity and reliability.  There have been other studies poking holes in myers-Briggs for years, too.

Myers-Briggs is pop psychology that's far more popular in business consulting and entrenched organizational wisdom than in actual academic psychology.

That said, it's a fun thing for people to do online, but it's really not far removed from horoscopes or personality quizzes.  And if you think about it, it's a good opportunity for self-reflection, which isn't a bad thing.
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