I still suspect IronyOwl though our arguments has gotten to the point of uselessness. SaintDraze was being scummy and is my other scum pick at the moment but not enough to displace Irony and anyway he has enough votes on him that my vote would mean very little beside joining a bandwagon so I will continue to go with my first suspicion. After the night phase I will have questions to ask IronyOwl depending on who dies but otherwise not anything much at the moment.
This is a rich post. So, you don't want to vote SaintStupid because it would be bandwagoning? Consciously not wanting to be seen as scummy is scummy in itself, you know? If you think he's scummier than Irony, vote him. But no, you still think Irony scummier, but have no more questions to ask him? Weak. But you'll ask more tomorrow depending on the night kill? Using the nightkill as anything other than WIFOM is self-defeating, and
planning to do it is a scummy proposition. Sticking with your very first vote generally means (unless you can provide clear evidence of their scummitude) that you don't want to be seen as vote hopping, or that you're not that interested in finding actual scum. Don't just stick with the vote you placed on your very first post of the game and sit on your lazy ass until the day is over. That's what scum do. Are you scum? You haven't actually provided clear evidence for your case on him, so I'm leaning scum on you,
Akhier. Welcome to my scumpicks list.
...and then you did change your vote after all. You went after Zrk2, though, even after saying above that you thought SaintStupid was your second pick. Why is Zrk2 scummier than Saint? Why is either scummier than IronyOwl? Why did you eventually decide to jump on a bandwagon even after saying you didn't want to be seen as bandwagoning? Was it because you saw a sudden chance to save the life of your scumbuddy, by jumping on a promising counterwagon? Saying "he's my second pick" when it seemed certain he'd hang is pretty safe distancing, making it clear you suspected him D1 without actually voting... but now it's not so certain! jumping on the other wagon may save him!
While I agree on your thoughts about Zrk2, wouldn't it better to lynch Saint and/or super first? Seeing how they're being both less than helpful. Or are you really that suspicious of Zrk?
I'm suspicious enough of him to vote him, yes. I vote where I see the scummiest, not based on some wild 'what if' notions (with very rare exceptions if it would result in a nolynch or something like that). Do you think I
shouldn't vote whoever I find scummiest?
However, I agree that both Dumb and Dumber are scummy enough, and I may still vote them. They dig themselves deeper with each post.
This bothers me... All of a sudden there's this pile on Zrk2. Granted, there's no actual votes, but other than that it really feels like a bandwagon.
So, it feels like a wagon but isn't? I find it amusing that you feel the need to intercede for him without actually addressing the points against him. Do you think people voting or suspecting him (or even bolding him, based on your list) is unreasonable based on the evidence?
Seems like you're trying to prevent your inexperienced scumbuddy from going down in flames once people suddenly realise how he's behaving.
A SaintDraze lynch is a good plan.
Better than a Zrk2 lynch? What makes one plan better than the other? For the record, I'm fine with a SaintStupid lynch too, he's certainly scummy enough, but I find your endorsement of such a plan while questioning people's sudden attention for Zrk2 and ignoring the points against him quite... interesting.
(While typing this I noticed Person asked you similar questions, but I find your answers insufficient: why do you try to deviate the conversation, endorse the
lynch SaintStupid plan, and utterly fail to give an opinion on the actual evidence arrayed against Zrk2? You say that there may be some scum on the wagons... no, really? given that almost every player is voting one or the other, I'd say it's pretty certain most scum are on one or the other or both; do you have a strong feeling of on which, or whom?)
Huh. Well, if I were scum, I dont even know if I would kill, it depends on equipment.
Don't be disingenuous. If you were scum, then your team would kill, and you'd have input in that decision; you'd have an opinion on who to kill. What is that opinion? Why do you make me restate the question when it's obvious you know that's what I meant?
So you want to direct the town night action? By doing that you clear the way for the scum to act without interference. By posting this idea you slip it into our collective subconcept and greatly increase the odds of us acting in that manner, which leads back to my point.
Leave our collective "subconcept" alone and provide actual answers to the
reasons people think you are scummy, or hang. You have failed to do any actual hunting, but were fast to jump on the bigger wagon when you saw people starting to pressure you. I suspect it's less because you think SaintStupid is scum, and more because you want to save your own skin.
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