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[Hairywoodenleg]

I hope the Finns don't dig too deep. Otherwise, once they reach the circus Helsinki would sinki into hell. How big is Finland's army btw?

As the first post said they will only breach the first cavern.

[Cotes]

I hope the Finns don't dig too deep. Otherwise, once they reach the circus Helsinki would sinki into hell. How big is Finland's army btw?

How similar are Hell and USSR?

[MarcAFK]

"Simo Häyhä spent his last years in Ruokolahti, a small village located in southeastern Finland, near the Russian border." - just in case they came back for more

[j0nas]

"Simo Häyhä spent his last years in Ruokolahti, a small village located in southeastern Finland, near the Russian border." - just in case they came back for more

Truly a dwarf at heart.

[Erkki]

http://ca.gizmodo.com/5769445/helsinkis-underground-shadow-city

http://www.wdc2012helsinki.fi/en/news/world%E2%80%99s-first-underground-city-plan

Tunnels everywhere through bedrock. How dwarfy. Nobody *lives* down there, AFAIK, but there are factories and swimming pools. It is not just basement levels, but a secondary underground transportation and utility network. At 4:55 in the video on the first link, it says the tunnel network is 70m (230 ft) underground and shows a picture of a very tall spiral staircase. That's roughly equivalent to the distance from the surface to the first cavern in DF.

There is actually quite a lot more than factories, swimming pools and transportation... The tunnels go pretty far, and include at least 2 Army storage bunkers and the situation room and some EW/SignInt stuff. A small Pentagon and a few extra bunkers. I know at least 1 entrance myself.

[Stworca]

No matter how cool it would be to live underground, sun-light is a vital part of our lives.   

Thus unless they find a way to re-produce its effects underground, it's a no-go for longer time periods.

[j0nas]

No matter how cool it would be to live underground, sun-light is a vital part of our lives.   

Thus unless they find a way to re-produce its effects underground, it's a no-go for longer time periods.

The technology to do this already exists, it's called 'lamps'.  They also come in UV varieties, should you so desire.

[Stworca]

The technology to do this already exists, it's called 'lamps'.  They also come in UV varieties, should you so desire.

Say, what now? I keep using sunlight + mirrors to light MY apartment.

What i meant was from a medical PoV. Vitamin D, preventing SAD, osteoporosis & co.

Now i'm talking about no sunlight whatsoever for months, not a one week stroll through underground caves with your pickaxe and pet mule (because who wouldn't do that?)

[j0nas]

Okay, I'll bite.  Here you go:

preventing SAD,

'lamps'

What i meant was from a medical PoV. Vitamin D,

They also come in UV varieties,

osteoporosis & co.

UV varieties,

Perhaps this time you'll actually read what I wrote before dismissing it off-hand.

[MarcAFK]

Gah the sun it burns, away with you harsh orb of flaming death!

[Cotes]

Besides, if anyone can handle a sunless life in underground, it's the Finns. It's already recommended that you take D-vitamin pills during winter if you live this north. And you know, probably the palest nation already.

Really, the only thing that seems to be against a massive underground relocation is that there's plenty of radon to be found in the soil. But I'm totally for it if someone gives us about five million Geiger counters.

[MarcAFK]

Yeah and those underground places just soak up the radon like a sponge if they're not ventilated properly, not to mention the radon that comes out of the rock when it's first excavated

[Stworca]

Okay, I'll bite.  Here you go:
Perhaps this time you'll actually read what I wrote before dismissing it off-hand.

 Sunlight cannot be fully replaced by UV, the best example beign flowers and photosynthesis. Plants absorb most of the wavelengths from above 400nm up to 700nm. UV is BELOW 400nm.

Also below 400nm (UV range) the higher energy of the photons raises the risk of photochemical damage.

So while i admit that UV can keep you running, it's not the optimal solution. Troll someone else, kind sir. I'm no expert, but that's what i know. Unless ofcourse you can provide a reliable source that clearly states that UV lamps can fully replace sun for a human beign, infinitely.

Why don't people live underground? You could just aswell ask Why is there no nuclear plant in the middle of NY. It's not healthy.. yet

[Cotes]

I'm pretty sure there exists lamps that can reproduce sunlight, but I guess they are really expensive or something. I'm not sure if they would be necessary for humans though.
 
And please check what 'troll' means.

E: Actually people not living underground has more to do with being usually much much more expensive and inconvenient than living on surface rather than it being insanely unhealthy. It's not like we don't already have the technological and medical know-how necessary to maintain decent living conditions underground, it's just much easier and cheaper to build apartments aboveground.

[Stworca]

It's a building destroyer naturally, but also a person who writes a post just to start an argument.

I meant no offense, if he (You) felt offended - excuse me. But a "There are lamps" response surely clears things out 

E : Ah, a valid point. I didn't consider costs at all. As for medical - no doubts about that, it won't be long till blind people will start seeign again, and as it is now, i am sure we can keep people up and running with any lights. But in my PoV the 'tech' alone wouldn't be sufficient at all. I assumed "j0nas" meant just the lamps, and nothing else.