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[BlueeulB]

Hello, I'm fairly new to the game, I've only been playing for a few weeks and I recently got the new version of DF along with the genesis mod. I usually take animals with me on the embark but now they always keep starving to death just after one season. Is is a bug or am I just missing something blatantly obvious? :C

[forsaken1111]

Hello, I'm fairly new to the game, I've only been playing for a few weeks and I recently got the new version of DF along with the genesis mod. I usually take animals with me on the embark but now they always keep starving to death just after one season. Is is a bug or am I just missing something blatantly obvious? :C

I assume you're playing .19

Some animals need to graze on grass or underground moss/fungus now. Make a pasture zone for them and assign the animals. (i -> n I believe)

[BlueeulB]

Oh, wow, stupid me. :C

Thanks.

[forsaken1111]

Oh, wow, stupid me. :C

Thanks.

No problem. It caught a lot of people by surprise.

Be warned: Some animals need a LOT of room.

[BlueeulB]

In that case, say I was using elephants, how much would be ideal?

[forsaken1111]

In that case, say I was using elephants, how much would be ideal?

I've never used elephants. They have [GRAZER:12] in their raw entry, which is far less than things like donkeys and horses, so I'd assume you wouldn't need too much room.

Edit: Unless lower = more food, since sheep have [GRAZER:1200]. Hm... test it out, give them like a 25x25 pasture.

[BlueeulB]

Well, for horses or similar animals? Sorry for the mass of question. :C

[forsaken1111]

Well, for horses or similar animals? Sorry for the mass of question. :C

Horses have a grazer value of 120, donkeys have 200, cows 100, pigs 1000, goats 1200.

Yeah it looks like lower = more so you will need a lot of room for elephants if that's correct.

[EmperorJon]

Elephants need even more than the ever hungry Water Buffalo and Yak.

[forsaken1111]

If the scale is linear, the elephants will need 10x as much food as a horse. !!

They're going to strip entire fields.

[BlueeulB]

So, how much does this translate to in terms of perimeters?

[forsaken1111]

So, how much does this translate to in terms of perimeters?

I really have no idea. Give it a go with 2 elephants and give them like a 50x50 tile area, see if they live?

[gtmattz]

This does need to be tested.  I have been cramming sheep into smaller and smaller rooms in order to see what the smallest is, so far I am still getting the process sorted and not really getting any data yet >_>.

[Calathar]

All I know is that my elephant starved in a grass-filled pasture.  I am not sure it even had enough time to walk to a new grass tile before starving to death.

[Jurph]

I captured and trained some elephants, and placed them in the largest pasture I could (960 tiles of grass available for 2 elephants). Within a few days of game time they were showing the brown down-arrow of hunger, despite spending pretty much every waking hour trying to eat.  Unless you mod their speed, I don't think they will be able to consume sufficient food to complete a breeding cycle. 

Once we have hay and can bring food to the elephants, it may become a worthwhile endeavor -- a breeding pair of elephants can produce enough meat and bone byproducts to last a long time.  For now I'm convinced that butchering them straightaway is the only way to save yourself an Elephant Tantrum.