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Veylon

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Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« on: February 22, 2011, 01:16:17 pm »
I've got a problem: During a tantrum spiral, one of my Dwarves had a Fell Mood and butchered a caravan guard to make an artifact: Snakescruel the Urns of Dawning. Now the guard's ghost is back for revenge and I can't bury him because his body was destroyed and his name isn't on the engrave slab list. As I understand it, it won't appear unless all traces of the body are destroyed, which they aren't because he was made into a scepter.

So I atom-smashed the thing and it's gone, but it's still on the artifact list (though no longer is around physically), and his name still can't be engraved! What do I do?
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2011, 01:26:27 pm »
Destroying all of the body will not get rid of a ghost - rather, it's one of the main ways of getting a ghost in the first place!
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 01:30:29 pm »
Why would you destroy such an AWESOME artifact?  :o
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 01:30:39 pm »
Wait, since when can fell moods target caravan guards?
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 01:37:42 pm »
tried slab yet?

edit:woops didnt read carefully  :P
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 01:41:21 pm »
He has tried slabs.  He is under the impression (and I have no idea if it's wrong or not) that slabs can only be engraved when the body is lost, and he has been unable to engrave a slab.

Personally, I think that if the ghost can't be put to rest after being Artifact'd, that'd be pretty awesome (besides the FPS loss).
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Quote from: Girlinhat on February 20, 2011, 01:01:53 am
And when you build your fortress walls from the bones of skeletal elephants, slain my weapons forged from melted goblin plunder, fed on cattle that graze on grass that blinks.  Then, you will know dwarfdom.

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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 12:49:28 am »
Quote from: Assassinfox on February 22, 2011, 01:30:29 pm
Why would you destroy such an AWESOME artifact?  :o
Don't worry, it wasn't destroyed, just smashed through time and space to...somewhere else. I like to think a lich has it by now.

Quote from: Zaerosz on February 22, 2011, 01:30:39 pm
Wait, since when can fell moods target caravan guards?
Now, I guess. Probably not what poor Kib was expecting when he signed up for caravan duty.

Interestingly, the ghost claimed one of the coffins I had set for auto-bury. So I freed up that one and all others so he didn't have one. Still didn't bring his name up for slabbing, unfortunately.
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 04:55:31 am »
Was the caravan guard a dwarf?
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 05:18:41 am »
Quote from: Veylon on February 22, 2011, 01:16:17 pm
I've got a problem: During a tantrum spiral, one of my Dwarves had a Fell Mood and butchered a caravan guard to make an artifact: Snakescruel the Urns of Dawning. Now the guard's ghost is back for revenge and I can't bury him because his body was destroyed and his name isn't on the engrave slab list. As I understand it, it won't appear unless all traces of the body are destroyed, which they aren't because he was made into a scepter.

So I atom-smashed the thing and it's gone, but it's still on the artifact list (though no longer is around physically), and his name still can't be engraved! What do I do?

Give that dwarf a royal bedroom, because anybody that makes an artifact and raises a ghost from it is bad as horse!
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 06:24:44 am »
It is impossible to engrave a slab for non-fortress dwarves. If a caravan guard dies and his body gets lost, you can't get rid of the ghost. You can try to have a berserk dwarf kill the ghost, but I think the ghost will simply reappear again later.
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 02:38:06 am »
Quote from: jellsprout on February 23, 2011, 06:24:44 am
It is impossible to engrave a slab for non-fortress dwarves. If a caravan guard dies and his body gets lost, you can't get rid of the ghost. You can try to have a berserk dwarf kill the ghost, but I think the ghost will simply reappear again later.

Is this absolute?  I had the opportunity -- neglected, because my FPS dropped to 2 and then I ate too much cotton candy -- to engrave a slab for a FB. 

There...  were a lot of dead things in that fortress.
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Quote from: Girlinhat on February 20, 2011, 01:01:53 am
And when you build your fortress walls from the bones of skeletal elephants, slain my weapons forged from melted goblin plunder, fed on cattle that graze on grass that blinks.  Then, you will know dwarfdom.

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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 02:41:57 am »
A FB is not a dwarf.  You can engrave a slab for any fortress dwarf or any other named creature (or unnamed pet of your fort) which dies on the map.  Caravan guards and caravans themselves are the only things not engraved.
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Re: Artifact of Evil and Ghosts
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 02:44:21 am »
Ah.  Gotcha.  I thought jell meant just foreigners. 

That's pretty hilarious, since dwarves will obsessively Coffinize dwarves who are in a Gobbo siege, but members of their own civ don't warrant a little carving.
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Quote from: Girlinhat on February 20, 2011, 01:01:53 am
And when you build your fortress walls from the bones of skeletal elephants, slain my weapons forged from melted goblin plunder, fed on cattle that graze on grass that blinks.  Then, you will know dwarfdom.