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[Irongrip]

So, I had a question. I seem to remember some glorious days a while back where, when my adventurer hit something with their war hammer, the thing in question would go whizzing halfway across the screen, as demonstrated by this wonderful excerpt that I saved:

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You bash The Wolf in the upper body with your Steel war hammer!
It collapses into a lump of gore!
The Wolf is propelled away by the force of the blow!
The Wolf slams into an obstacle!
The lower body is mangled!
The lower body explodes in gore!
The upper body collapses into a lump of gore!
The right front leg is mangled!
The right rear leg is mangled!
The left rear paw is mangled!
The left rear paw is mangled!
The left front leg is mangled!
The left front leg is mangled!
The head is mangled!
The right front leg is mangled!
The Wolf has been struck down.

/drool

So, anyway, I picked up DF again the other day, and got my adventurer going ... and there are no longer any of these wonderful flying lessons! Where did they go? Has there been a change, or does this merely require special gear?

[Sunday]

it's a bit harder, & a bit more realistic (remember Newton's 3rd law) now.

You can still send people/things flying, but you generally have to be bigger than them. I think, anyway.

[scout890]

Well in one of my forts some invaders were shooting rabbits with bows that had enough force to send them flying. IT WAS HILARIOUS. Oh how I love the sight and thought of impaled rabbits flying across the sky.

[Ultimuh]

Any way to mod the game to reinstate these awesome flying gobbos?

[Untelligent]

Self = bronze colossus

[EmperorJon]

Indeed. BCs will cause anything to fly and explode. They can explode your head by 'pinching'.

[sambojin]

Modding up the weapon raws should also work. Bigger, faster hammers is an easy edit. Or maybe just change around the metal raws to make them denser, but I'll have to check (you'll need to carry around the heavier weapon all of a sudden). I'll have to try to see the breakpoint of actually getting things moving. They might end up becoming a bit "cutty" as a weapon, or just cause very nice injuries with out a goblin launch.

Maybe just editing yourself to be a bronze collosus is easier really. But super-sonic thunderhammers is cool if you can get it to work.

[Seriyu]

I recall trying to get this to work with a weapon, and increasing the size of the weapon doesn't have enough of an effect to warrent the speed loss unfortunatly.

Brought an arenadwarf down to I think double digit speed and I think the opposing goblin may have flown a single tile, if that. 

I'd love to hear how to get this to happen if anyone manages it.

[Erkki]

I recall trying to get this to work with a weapon, and increasing the size of the weapon doesn't have enough of an effect to warrent the speed loss unfortunatly.

Brought an arenadwarf down to I think double digit speed and I think the opposing goblin may have flown a single tile, if that. 

I'd love to hear how to get this to happen if anyone manages it.

Just make a new weapon. Super-fast platinum war hammer. Name it Mjöllnir. 

[3]

I've tried making ludicrously large/fast weapons in the past, and it doesn't help much.

[Deadly Lamarr]

Just going to have to wait for magic, I guess.

[Shook]

Perhaps there is some obscure formula for knockback? I mean, Toady's obviously going for quite a bit of realism in combat, so maybe the weapons are applying joules to the body or something. I'm gonna do some !!SCIENCE!! with this, and see if i can find any kind of correlation between dorf physics and reality. Somehow, i doubt it will happen, but hey.

Edit: Ok, it makes no sense to me. Swinging a 12,56 kg iron thunder-hammer at 120x velocity modifier should knock down a giant, but John McHuman only gets a broken rib. What gives?

[noppa354]

if you want knockback you need a contact area large enough to hit every body part at once, massive velocity, for real just make every number as large as possible and whack something with it. hitting only the chest, you break ribs, hitting whole body, you fling em!

[UristMcDwarf]

Perhaps there is some obscure formula for knockback? I mean, Toady's obviously going for quite a bit of realism in combat, so maybe the weapons are applying joules to the body or something. I'm gonna do some !!SCIENCE!! with this, and see if i can find any kind of correlation between dorf physics and reality. Somehow, i doubt it will happen, but hey.

Edit: Ok, it makes no sense to me. Swinging a 12,56 kg iron thunder-hammer at 120x velocity modifier should knock down a giant, but John McHuman only gets a broken rib. What gives?

You should draw it. 

[Shook]

I HAVE ACHIEVED KNOCKBACK!... On a guineafowl.



Size 1500. The hammer is size 1600 and made of iron. A blow to the body sends it flying two urists away. Progress! However, i don't know if it's contact area, size or velocity that plays the dominant role. I guess i'll just have to experiment, then. I did try kicking the bird, and it remained stationary, so i believe the weapon does play a role here.

@Urist: Maybe i should. :U

Edit: OK, speed plays a role, that's for sure. However, multiplying speed by 10 made it fly 9 urists as opposed to 2, which is a bit odd. I shall keep !!SCIENCE!!'ing.

Second edit: So apparently, the relation between your size and the weapon's minimum size matters. If you're not much bigger, don't expect a lot of knockback, but on the other hand, if you're much bigger, you can send people flying. The difference? Well, John McHammer is size 70000. If the minimum size is 10000, he can send a guineafowl several urists away. If it's 70000, he's struggling to bash it one urist away. yes i'm going to keep using urists as a measure for length
So in theory, setting minimum size really low would give a weapon significant knockback power. I MUST TEST IT.

Third edit: Correction, minimum size is irrelevant. Two-handed size, however, isn't.

¯\(°_o)/¯

All in all, very inconclusive so far.