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[Deon]

It looks like the blood is not LIQUID_MISC.

Oops, I did not mean that. Hang on, testing.

[silverskull39]

But what would it be, then? LIQUID_CREATURE_MAT? I thought that was a subtype of LIQUID_MISC, but I'll try it out.

[D_E]

@Panthera Leo:  Oh, I think I get it now.  I was fixating on the SYNDROME stuff.  The REACTION_PRODUCT stuff is neat.  This feature has been around for a while, though, so it'll be old news for some people.  But in my case I never used material_reaction_products, even though there was one case in which I really should have.   So, thanks!

@silverskull:

Adding

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[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:EXTRACT_BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD] to the muscle entry of material_default.txt might work.  Or it might crash the game (or just cause an errorlog entry).

If it doesn't work, try adding a COOKING_BLOOD (use the blood template) entry to the TOP of standard_materials (b_detail_plan_default), and change the above line to

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[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:EXTRACT_BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:COOKING_BLOOD]
That should definitely work, but is a touch less elegant.

The reaction would then be

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[REACTION:PRESS_MEAT]
   [NAME:press blood from meat]
   [BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS:CUSTOM_T]
   [REAGENT:meat:1:MEAT:NONE:NONE:NONE] [HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:EXTRACT_BLOOD]
   [REAGENT:barrel:1:BARREL:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [EMPTY]
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
      [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:3:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:meat:EXTRACT_BLOOD]
      [PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:barrel]
   [SKILL:BREWING]

modified muscle template (set to use blood, change to COOKING_BLOOD if this causes problems).  Only change is down at the bottom.

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[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MUSCLE_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:MAUVE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:muscle]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:muscle]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:MAUVE]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:n/a]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:MAUVE]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:n/a]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:n/a]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:4:0:0]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1]
[SPEC_HEAT:4181]
[IGNITE_POINT:10508]
[MELTING_POINT:NONE]
[BOILING_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:10250]
[COLDDAM_POINT:9900]
[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:NONE]
[SOLID_DENSITY:1060]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:NONE]
[MOLAR_MASS:NONE]
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[TORSION_YIELD:10000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:20000] used human skin
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:20000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[BENDING_YIELD:10000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[MAX_EDGE:0]
[ABSORPTION:100]
[IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL]
[ROTS]
[GENERATES_MIASMA]
[MEAT]
[BUTCHER_SPECIAL:MEAT:NONE]
[MEAT_NAME:NONE:meat:meat]
This lets the game know that the item can be eaten in various ways.
[EDIBLE_VERMIN]
[EDIBLE_COOKED]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:EXTRACT_BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD] or COOKING_BLOOD

standard_materials (if you have to go the cooking_blood rout):

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[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
This command is just a shortcut for the similar lines (USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE|<token>|<template>) in a creature definition.
[ADD_MATERIAL:COOKING_BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[ADD_MATERIAL:SKIN:SKIN_TEMPLATE]
[ADD_MATERIAL:FAT:FAT_TEMPLATE]
etc


EDIT:  if you add [EDIBLE_COOKED] to the BLOOD_TEMPLATE, you may be able to cook blood automatically at the kitchen. 

[Deon]

D_E: That's what I am testing now. I've added material reaction products to material templates. Give me a few moments and I will return with result.

It looks like you cannot extract submaterials from MEAT itself, but you should be able to read it through MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT.

[Deon]

Okay here's what I did.

I've added

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[REACTION_CLASS:BLOOD_EXTRACTION]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:BLOOD_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD]
To muscle, brain etc. materials.

I've made this:

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[REACTION:PRESS_BLOOD]
   [NAME:press blood from bodyparts]
   [BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS:CUSTOM_T]
   [REAGENT:A:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[USE_BODY_COMPONENT]
[REACTION_CLASS:BLOOD_EXTRACTION]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:BLOOD_MAT]
   [REAGENT:barrel:1:BARREL:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [EMPTY]
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
      [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:3:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:meat:BLOOD_MAT]
      [PRODUCT_TO_CONTAINER:barrel]
   [SKILL:BREWING]
It still doesn't work... Makes "liquid[15]".

At the same time adding this to materials:

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[REACTION_CLASS:CREMATION]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:CREMATION_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:FAT] and using this

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[REACTION:CREMATE_BODY_KILN]
[NAME:cremate bodyparts]
[BUILDING:KILN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_B]
[REAGENT:A:2:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[USE_BODY_COMPONENT]
[REACTION_CLASS:CREMATION]
[HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:CREMATION_MAT]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:ASH:NONE]
[PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[PRODUCT:60:1:GLOB:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:CREMATION_MAT]
[SKILL:SMELT]makes fat just fine.

[silverskull39]

Success! D_E's suggestion worked and I now have peafowl blood. Now I just need to figure out how to make dwarves use a reaction to "Improve" their weapons by smearing it with blood. Should be relatively straight forward.

[Deon]

Weird, it's the exact thing I did in the post above and it didn't work. I must've made a simple error.

[Deon]

Haha, I see it now. I have REAGENT:A but  I copied a product line from your original reaction, so it was looking for "meat" reagent, not "A". I'm glad it's solved.

[D_E]

Success! D_E's suggestion worked and I now have peafowl blood. Now I just need to figure out how to make dwarves use a reaction to "Improve" their weapons by smearing it with blood. Should be relatively straight forward.

As far as I know that is impossible (at least, having them smear it with liquid blood that can be used to transfer contaminants/syndromes is impossible). 

Which is to say, if you figure out how to make it work, please let me know!

[silverskull39]

Hrm.... new problem. for the blood smearing reaction what would the reagent be?

   [REAGENT:blood:1:EXTRACT_BLOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]?

Success! D_E's suggestion worked and I now have peafowl blood. Now I just need to figure out how to make dwarves use a reaction to "Improve" their weapons by smearing it with blood. Should be relatively straight forward.

As far as I know that is impossible (at least, having them smear it with liquid blood that can be used to transfer contaminants/syndromes is impossible). 

Which is to say, if you figure out how to make it work, please let me know!

I'm not using it to try and transfer contaminants, I just thought it would be a dwarfy thing to do and actually be a good way to use blood barrels, though I may need to have a separate reaction to use the blood from caravans. But hey, if it works, bonus! Once I get it to work I'll move on to ichor. I also wanted a way to make "Rations" which are going to be what the jerky is. the jerky is going to be a reduced value food that, unspiced, has a very low value, but it will be a way to extend meat supplies.

[Deon]

EXTRACT_BLOOD is just a "link" used to show what to take. It's still LIQUID_MISC.

[silverskull39]

so would I have to put [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:BLOOD_SMEAR] or w/e in the blood material template and then use [HAS_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:BLOOD_SMEAR]?

[Deon]

Yep, it should work.

[silverskull39]

Well I've got two problems now. if the meat pressing reaction takes meat from a creature with ICHOR for blood, then it produces 'creature n/a

• '. I thought I could solve that by adding    [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:EXTRACT_BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR] to the meat definition, which worked for the most part... but it made ichor creatures the only meat it could accept. is there a way to make it produce ichor and blood correctly based on the meat without changing anything in every ichor producing creature?

Second problem is with the smearing reaction. It just shows up as red in the workshop even when I have a weapon and a barrel of blood.
Here's the code.

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[REACTION:SMEAR_BLOOD]
   [NAME:coat a weapon with blood]
   [BUILDING:STILL:CUSTOM_ALT_C]
   [REAGENT:blood:1:LIQUID_MISC:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [REACTION_CLASS:BLOOD]
   [REAGENT:weapon:1:WEAPON:NONE:NONE:NONE]
      [PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [IMPROVEMENT:100:weapon:COVERED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:blood:BLOOD]
   [SKILL:BREWING]

Any Ideas?

[D_E]

1)  The ichor thing will be somewhat awkward to fix.  You basically have two options:
i) Go through the raws and rename ICHOR to BLOOD.  Basically change:

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:ICHOR:ICHOR_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR:LIQUID]

to

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[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:ICHOR_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
wherever possible.

ii)Your second option is to put the following lines in every creature that uses ichor

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[SELECT_MATERIAL:MUSCLE]
[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:EXTRACT_BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR]
They must be somewhere after the call to STANDARD_MATERIALS.  At the end of the creature def would be fine.

2) 
i) shouldn't the improvement token just read [IMPROVEMENT:100:weapon:COVERED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:blood]?

ii) Did you remember to add REACTION_CLASS:BLOOD to the BLOOD_TEMPLATE in material_templates_default?

ALSO!  Just to warn you, I'm pretty sure that the result of this reaction will be a weapon "covered in chunks of frozen blood."

EDIT:  as far as using all that blood, may I suggest black pudding?