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[Sarudak]

Ok so it looks like animals like dogs and crundles and whatnot still don't need to eat though

[agatharchides]

Animals in cages do need to eat. Apparently dwarves don't feed them either as I have a lot of idlers. Now if we could just make cats grazers. 

[Girlinhat]

Add the grazer tag!  Also, there was something mentioned about making animal grain in future releases, so expect to see "grass collection zones" for harvesting feed bushels, or something.

[Greiger]

That explains why my 2 water buffalo are starving in the same amount of space that feeds 3 horses...  I'll need to give them more space.

[agatharchides]

I don't know if animals produce different amount of milk, but if as I suspect they don't then goats and sheep look like good value for space. You can have 10 of them for the grazing room of a single cow, and sheep give wool into the bargain.

[Korva]

I'm postponing a "true" update but I peeked into the new version with a test fort anyway, and I must say this is sweet. The only thing I'm worried about now is a population explosion for grazers since they can't be kept in cages anymore. I suppose I should get used to slaughtering the buggers as soon as they're born. But grazers actually needing to graze, a bunch of new domestics, wool, eggs, beekeeping, clay -- those are really awesome new features. I look forward to making a "proper" fort with them when some issues are fixed.

Thanks for the numbers, too.

[TheyTarget]

I don't know if animals produce different amount of milk, but if as I suspect they don't then goats and sheep look like good value for space. You can have 10 of them for the grazing room of a single cow, and sheep give wool into the bargain.

They've almost always been the better animal in real life as well, with some exceptions.

[EvilFuzzy9]

Though they tend to graze right down to the roots, which kills the grass.

[darkflagrance]

Pets need to graze, but can't be assigned to pasture. This leads to the mass starvation of pet lambs and baby alpacas T_T

[Korva]

So animals won't graze unless assigned to a pasture? That sounds iffy. Pets and other non-pastured beasties should be able to find their own spots for feeding.

[Greiger]

They will snatch up grass when they pass over it following their master.  But if that master is say, a metalsmith who never has any reason to go anyplace that has grass, the pet eventually starves.

[PopeRichardCorey]

It's beginning to look to me like grass doesn't actually grow back -- It's only been about a year and a half, but my first pasture land is completely bare.  Should I just wait, or is there a distant time in the future when my meat industry ceases to be viable?

[agatharchides]

I am pretty sure it does since grass is growing all over my forts floor.

[The_Fool76]

I've actually taken to rotating between four pastures so that each one has a chance to recover.
(Just like real farming, woo!)

[Misterstone]

What the FRACK, there is no way a PIG eats a tenth as much as a cow, unless it['s a modern vareity that gets fed ultrahigh nutrition to produce 25 litres of milk a day, no medieval cow could possibly match that...
and if that is the case with the high food consumption of the dairy animals, yak, buffalo, cow etc... how does a horse eat almost as much but a goat eats vastly less?

I don't know about the pigs, but goats are pretty well known to be able to graze on land that isn't fit for cattle.  In fact, aren't they responsible for a lot of desert?

I think the assumption is that pigs will forrage on stuff other than grass (basically anything organic) so they don't need as much GRASS as cattle.


Does anyone know if turkeys, chickens etc. need grass?  Also do animals need water?