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[darkrider2]

Has anyone else heard about the 'voter IDs' that are currently trying to be pushed through by republicans?

[Knight of Fools]

Is that just in Wisconsin?  I thought that people around the States already needed some form of ID to vote, preventing people from lying and saying, "I'm such-and-such" and voting for them.  Though that happens with the current system anyways, so anything that improves voting security is a plus in my opinion.  That is, if it works.

That's another topic, however.


I have mixed feelings about the Unions being removed.  I feel your pain with low pay, since I've been in the same situation since I started working about eight years ago.  Minimum wage (Or less), poor hours, lots of work...

If companies were fair in the first place, it'd be a lot easier.  On the other hand, the economy is in the pits, so I'd be cautious about spending too much if I were in their position.  I'm willing to empathize with them.  (Working in the government has to suck, though, especially since there's ulterior motives to everything that may or may not adversely affect you.  You're only one vote, after all.  Again, it shouldn't be that way.)

Basically, everything's working against itself, and these attempts at declaring with complete authority what works and what doesn't work is kind of annoying.  Any way we go is going to be a bumpy road, unions or no unions, lots of government spending or none at all.  I just want things to smooth over so I can work and support my family independently and comfortably.  If I get that, I'll be happy.

Good luck out there, Vactor.

[Flaede]

Good luck out there, Vactor.

[DJ]

So, any plans for a general strike?

[SeaBee]

Just wanted to say thanks to Vactor for offering some insights into a historic moment for Wisconsin (and the U.S.).

So, thanks Vactor. You put in some serious hours there.

[darkrider2]

So, any plans for a general strike?

Considering the actions of their governor so far. I wouldn't be surprised if he just fired anyone who striked, like reagan did.

[mainiac]

So, any plans for a general strike?

Considering the actions of their governor so far. I wouldn't be surprised if he just fired anyone who striked, like reagan did.

That would be fun to explain to the Parent Teacher Association.

"Yeah, your child's school doesn't have any teachers because they wanted to keep their union.  Don't worry, I'm sure we'll be able to hire some new ones in a year or two."

[DJ]

You can only fire so many people before the whole system collapses. Schools and hospitals aren't exactly assembly lines, you can't just bring in a load of strike breakers. So as long as the strikers maintain solidarity, they can paralyse the state of Wisconsin till their demands are met or the general population gets sick of it and tars and feathers the governor before exiling him.

[Knight of Fools]

Or they could do the same to the teachers.

I think that's what they should do to teachers in the first place, but I'm biased, 'cause I'm young.

[olemars]

So, any plans for a general strike?

Considering the actions of their governor so far. I wouldn't be surprised if he just fired anyone who striked, like reagan did.

He could do it the Gaddafi way and threaten to replace the population with affordable chinese.

[darkrider2]

Workers that aren't replaceable? BAH HUMBUG!

[Aqizzar]

In case anyone's wondering, the Wisconsin thing is still going, even with the public-worker collective-bargaining restrictions signed into law.  The court system is trying to decide if a stay should be placed on the law, at least until the settle whether it was passed illegally.

Meanwhile, the public worker unions have found an interesting ally, in Wisconsin farmers.  Madison was overrun with tractors over the weekend, and this guy Tony Schultz, actual farmer, is lighting up the airwaves with some old-fashioned firebrand speechin'.  He's mad as Hell, as he's not gonna take it anymore, with language that will be declared Socialist (and by rights, it honestly kinda is) within a day or two by almost anyone with a TV show.

[Aklyon]

Go Farmerdude go!
Firebrand speechin' be more interestin' than most of the talk shows anyway.

[Nadaka]

that really was a damn good speech.

[Heron TSG]

I could barely understand him after the 6 minute mark and yet I was still inspired enough to drop kick a bear through my neighbor's house.