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Pyro

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Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« on: February 13, 2011, 06:31:26 pm »
Hay guys. I have been having some odd behaviour happen with my dwarves lately.
It seems that anyone assigned into the military eventually starts bleeding to death for no readily apparent reason. I have seen no combat reports and there will be a announcement that Urst McRambo Has Bled To Death with some long trail of read leading to the unfortunate body.
At the same time it seems that as I train up war dogs some of them just bleed to death on the spot.

Have training regimes become extremely intense or is this some kind of bug?
I didn't give the dwarves training weapons in their equipment so could the be braining themselves with real swords for practice and then bleeding out on the way to the hospital?

Its kind of depressing as I have just had a forgotten beast enter and my 10 strong army seems to ave fallen down to 2 lowly souls.
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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 06:36:04 pm »
Are they sparring with one another?
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 06:37:08 pm »
Wardogs don't even take part in sparring. If you didn't get a danger room (and it got out of hands), the only option that comes to my mind is some forgotten beast blood (maybe the kind that rots body parts).
In older versions, sparring could cause heavy injuries to soldiers, but that should be fixed now.
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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 06:50:01 pm »
If this happened with a Forgotten Beast, then it may be its Deadly Vapors or such.  They tend to cause nasty bloody things to happen, like causing lungs to explode.  Keep in mind that FB contaminants remain around, and are tough to get rid of.

Other than that, check the combat reports, see if they were in combat recently.
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Pyro

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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 07:09:03 pm »
I'll have a look at the paths they are using  to see if it crosses an forgotten beast blood/ichor/other fluids.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 07:11:14 pm »
Check the items too-they might be getting infected by wearing stained armor left by the prior militia members
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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2011, 04:56:05 pm »
If you've used DFhacks or some such, theres always the chance you have rogue areas of massively hot temperature, that would cause nearly anything to boil and bleed out rather quickly by just walking through it for a second. Shut off temperature for a little bit and see if that fixes the problem. It's happened to me.
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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 06:51:23 pm »
Hmm, something like that happened to me but only with a couple of pets and only around one tile. Didn't think to look for weird contaminants but whatever it was didn't seem to cause dwarves to bleed. I built a wall or something over the suspicious tile and didn't see any more issues....  I did have some floors going over magma tunnels. Is standing on one too long dangerous? I hate weird unexplained things like this....
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 12:43:01 am »
It's most likely contaminants on the armor of a fallen dwarf and that armor was picked up by a new recruit who promply died and left it for another recruit to pick up.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 01:56:29 am »
Quote from: ral on February 14, 2011, 06:51:23 pm
I did have some floors going over magma tunnels. Is standing on one too long dangerous? I hate weird unexplained things like this....

If that was the case, calling it 'unexplained' would be a hell of an abuse.
Do some travelling, find a volcano and check if you are comfortable with running in a proximity of lava, breath in some volcanic ashes and fill your room with whatever 'air' comes out of that volcano. If you come back safe'n'sound, you will have the right to throw such events under 'unexplained'.

PS. You can also consider spending a minute in an oven set to let's say 220C
PSS. For safety reasons, don't.
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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 11:37:48 am »
Quote from: Pyro on February 13, 2011, 06:31:26 pm
...anyone assigned into the military eventually starts bleeding to death for no readily apparent reason... ...a announcement that Urst McRambo Has Bled To Death with some long trail of read leading to the unfortunate body.... ...as I train up war dogs some of them just bleed to death on the spot.
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... just had a forgotten beast enter ....

1. Assuming the new recruits are wearing armor from the dead, check the armor for FB contaminants.

2. Are there any puddles of dwarf fat near the blood trail.

3. The blood trails lead to a body. Where do they lead from?

4. Where are these war dogs located in relation to the military? Can you see any puddles of dog fat?

5. Is the FB still alive? What did its description say?
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 08:38:29 pm »
FB appears shortly before the dwarven plague. This ain't rocket surgery.
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Re: Ring a ring of roses, we all fall down
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2011, 12:19:51 am »
Quote from: ZetaX on February 13, 2011, 06:37:08 pm
In older versions, sparring could cause heavy injuries to soldiers, but that should be fixed now.

I remember how I gave my champion an artifact obsidian sword before sparring practice in one old fort. Ten minutes later, she had added seven dwarf kills to her four goblin kills... fortunately, I didn't really need anyone else for defense.
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