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The Dog Delusion

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giving my doctors practice
« on: February 13, 2011, 07:25:04 am »

So I have a lot of peasants lurking about, and doctors that have yet to see action. There is only one thing to do that will solve both of these problems at once: I'm going to build a special "drop chamber" situated directly above the hospital. "Test subjects" will be drafted and ordered to stand on the retracting bridge, which will then be triggered to drop them directly into the lobby of the hospital complex, hopefully breaking a bone or two upon arrival/landing.

Question 1: How many z-levels of falling is optimal? I want enough that they'll actually need a doctor, but I would prefer not to kill too many dwarves. Will 1 z-level do it? what about 2? or 3? I remember seeing somewhere that 2 z-levels can be easily lethal for a decent chunk of those involved, so I was thinking that 1 would be best - some might walk away with just bruises and such, but others might actually break something, which will be good (for me).

Question 2: I know that falling onto a creature will negate falling damage for the falling creature, but will the landed-upon creature suffer any ill effects?

Any other things I may have overlooked? Are there better ways to reliably injure dwarves for medical practice? Am I evil?
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Re: giving my doctors practice
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 07:41:09 am »

Make sure they don't get too battered. Because, unfortunatedly,  patients can befriend doctors and caregivers, and thus their deaths can trigger tantrum spirals. I learned this by using my immigrant spiking chamber for this purpose.
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Re: giving my doctors practice
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 07:43:01 am »

1. A fall of only 1 z-level does no damage (only a short stun). So 2 is optimal.

2. No, neither the landing platform nor the lander suffer any damage.

Making something like a danger room might be better than dropping dwarfs (just make sure the training spears only damage their fingers etc., not their brains or hearts).
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 08:19:23 am »

Making something like a danger room might be better than dropping dwarfs (just make sure the training spears only damage their fingers etc., not their brains or hearts).

Hmmm...like a series of 1-spear-only vertical traps, and with the "test subjects" armored on the head and body? would tat be sufficient? or do they not even need to be armored?
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Re: giving my doctors practice
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 08:26:50 am »

Making something like a danger room might be better than dropping dwarfs (just make sure the training spears only damage their fingers etc., not their brains or hearts).

Hmmm...like a series of 1-spear-only vertical traps, and with the "test subjects" armored on the head and body? would tat be sufficient? or do they not even need to be armored?

Make a room filled with upright spear traps, each with one wooden training spear in it (not just a wooden spear, a wooden TRAINING spear). Have the spear traps hooked up to a lever. Station your peasantsquad in the danger room. Now make some other random guy flip the lever a few times.
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Re: giving my doctors practice
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 08:31:44 am »

Making something like a danger room might be better than dropping dwarfs (just make sure the training spears only damage their fingers etc., not their brains or hearts).

Hmmm...like a series of 1-spear-only vertical traps, and with the "test subjects" armored on the head and body? would tat be sufficient? or do they not even need to be armored?

Make a room filled with upright spear traps, each with one wooden training spear in it (not just a wooden spear, a wooden TRAINING spear). Have the spear traps hooked up to a lever. Station your peasantsquad in the danger room. Now make some other random guy flip the lever a few times.

Currently, my danger room is exactly that except with 10 training spears per trap. Would that work? Just send the testies (hehehe...testes) to the regular danger room? or is 10 spears per square a bit much for unarmored peasants? I know that the cats ad dogs that wander in there get pretty thoroughly destroyed...
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Re: giving my doctors practice
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 08:50:51 am »

Making something like a danger room might be better than dropping dwarfs (just make sure the training spears only damage their fingers etc., not their brains or hearts).

Hmmm...like a series of 1-spear-only vertical traps, and with the "test subjects" armored on the head and body? would tat be sufficient? or do they not even need to be armored?

Make a room filled with upright spear traps, each with one wooden training spear in it (not just a wooden spear, a wooden TRAINING spear). Have the spear traps hooked up to a lever. Station your peasantsquad in the danger room. Now make some other random guy flip the lever a few times.

Currently, my danger room is exactly that except with 10 training spears per trap. Would that work? Just send the testies (hehehe...testes) to the regular danger room? or is 10 spears per square a bit much for unarmored peasants? I know that the cats ad dogs that wander in there get pretty thoroughly destroyed...

It's your call, but be prepared for casualties.

They're all useless peasants and cheese makers, anyway. Fuck 'em.
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Re: giving my doctors practice
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2011, 10:34:36 am »

If you've got 10 spikes per trap, try flipping the switch once.  Some may die but most should probably be wounded.  Even if they do die, you'll just get more migrants and another chance at getting a good armorsmith!  Personally, I'm going with a 3 level drop for my hospital training purposes.  I've seen 12 year old peasant girls survive that fall.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 01:13:25 pm »

Wooden training spears have trouble getting through even the most basic clothing.  The 2 z-level drop would be a more consistent method.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 01:31:46 pm »

Wooden training spears have trouble getting through even the most basic clothing.  The 2 z-level drop would be a more consistent method.
No, the spears are much more consistent. If he ddoesn't add mittens, socks, etc., he will get lots of cut fingers, feet and the like, while the main body can be protected by standard clothing. And it even trains his dwarfs on the way!
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 01:58:02 pm »

better yet, drop them onto the wooden training spears. true dwarfs dont get impaled on elf hippie weapons.
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