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[shlorf]

You just have to mine cautiously if you don't use dfreveal. Start by finding the upper end of the vein (make sure to dig your ramps/stairs a bit away from the vein as it goes diagonally and you don't want to dig into it upwards). Make sure you have the third cavern revealed so you don't flood everything by digging into a cavern lake. Anything that could be hollow you simply don't touch (look for the 2x2 unrevealed bit in the middle). As the hollow part is always 2x2 you can pinpoint areas were it might be and cannot be for every level and mine away everything else. Once your military is decked out in candy armor and weapons you can either stop or add some repeating spike and cavein traps and start getting the dangerous bits from the top to the bottom. You can also get the bits submerged in magma by making obsidian around it (except for the ones right above smr - the magma flow tiles).