Not to mention you're applying some of my meta onto webadict. How does what I did in Supernatural 3 apply to webadict at all?
It's something I hadn't seen scum do, so I added it to my repertoire of things to look out for skillful scum doing. Wuba can be very skillful scum when he wants, so it certainly rings alarms if I see him do it. Aren't you glad you expanded my horizons? Your so thoroughly schooling me on supernatural 3 almost made up for me handing you your ass on a platter on Bastardnormal. ;-)
Quit buddying. I don't care how I carved your ass into thin slices and made an ass sandwich that I served to all my friends.
This still doesn't answer the question. Sure, WUBA may be good, but WUBA is not Jim Groovester. Why are you taking one example of 'skilled scum' and applying it to webadict? What if that's something only I do? Maybe if more 'skilled scum', whoever they are, did it, you might be on to something, but as far as I'm aware you only have my example to compare to.
If it doesn't matter if the question goes unanswered, why does it matter if I press the question? If you're going to use something's unimportance as a reason for why I shouldn't do something, I can use its unimportance for the opposite reason. Since we're dealing with frivolities who cares what happens?
That's the argument you're making anyway.
Booook's refusal means he's not being cooperative, which town in the majority of cases should be as much as possible. They should speak freely as much as possible to allow everybody to get a good look at them, excepting issues that actually are dangerous to talk about. That's something a townie should want, right? He should want everybody to get good reads on him so that he can have everybody know he's town.
There is a bit of a difference, actually. Refusing to answer means Book look at the question, decided answering was bad for the town, and then refused. You looked at the question, which you've freeely admitted was frivilous and useless, and decided it was important enough to pressure Book into answering. Book's was more of a passive thing while yours takes both an active effort for no gain. This means you either decided to force the issue into relevance to attack Book or you value your time so lowly you're willing to waste it AND you don't know how to scumhunt properly via asking questions.
You've literally just said my case. Book thinks talking about Extie choices IS dangerous to talk about. That you think Book is incorrect is irrelevant. So Book did in fact have a reason to not answer that was to him a good one. You argued with Book that it wasn't dangerous, Book disagreed. If you had asked Book other questions or questions about Book's refusal to answer, you would of gotten responses from Book.
Dead wrong again. If I find Book's reasons on something insufficent, I am going to press him on it. Who gives a fuck if Book thinks he's correct? That doesn't matter to me at all. The only thing that matters to me is whether I find everybody else's opinions and reasons satisfactory. Because, gee, I'm going to be a useless and passive fuck if I think, "Well, I don't agree with that, but he thinks it's a good reason, so I won't bother to press him for it."
I'm pretty sure you're just blathering uselessly to give the appearance of scumhunting. What's even the point you're trying to make? I pressed a useless question? Who cares, I can press a useless question if I want.
Booook outright refused to allow people to get a read on him on this issue, which is something I consider a vastly more important issue than helping impressionable Exterminators with their tech choices. It doesn't necessarily make him scum for refusing, since BOoook has a habit of being a defiant jackass for no good reason a lot of the time. And, well, it's hard to pressure vote somebody when you're already voting them from the RVS.
Was it worth it, then? You seem to be saying now that attacking Book wasn't a good idea.
I didn't say it wasn't a good idea. I said I fucked it up by not making my pressure more evident.
You really are stupid. You really only wanted the answer for the sake of getting an answer? Why did you pressure Book with an irrelevant question over making up a new, more relevant one you could of actually learned something from? It would of been a better use of your time and Book's.
My God, you seriously don't read anything I say.
I answered this. Probably twice.
It's about getting a good read from him.
I didn't coerce Ottofar into anything. How Ottofar responded was up to Ottofar. He responded poorly, just like Ottofar. Do you see me calling him scum for it? No.
And that's why you're accusation falls flat on its face. If you're going to accuse me of tricking or trapping or coercing Ottofar into making a bad move, why am I not voting him for it? Here's why: because I don't think he's scum for it.
Tada! Bullshit accusations are easy to dispel.
Don't give me that shit. You know damn that asking Ottofar "Why aren't you voting Toaster?" will drive Ottofar towards voting Toaster. The implications coming off this post are tangible. "Why aren't you voting Toaster? You should be voting Toaster but aren't." might as well have been your post, it would of read the same.
Seriously. What the fuck is the point you're trying to make.
I obviously didn't try to trap Ottofar into making a slip up because then I would've voted him for it.
Which is why you're just blathering uselessly for the appearance of scum hunting. I'm just going to ignore it from now on. Unless you actually do have a worthwhile point to bring up.
Well, you're kind of the instigator here. See above.
That's not follow up and you've insulted mafia by even pretending it is. That's inane bullshit you posted so you wouldn't have to give a real opinion. You didn't vote Ottofar or call him scum, or give a follow-up question. Thus, you ended the conversation without an opinion.
Follow up would of been another question or a statement on Ottofar's character. And don't tell me you said he was scum, you were so passive here you could easily make a case here you were saying Ottofar was town. Saying "I don't buy it, not yet" implies you will buy the case in the future.
Point. What is it?
Stuff like this is why this reminds me of you in Sorcerer's Apprentice II. You had a lot to say about what I should've done. And you were full of crap on every point. Just like you are now.
Book, a question in turn.
What do you make of Mr.Person trying to incriminate me through Ottofar's slipup? You asked Dariush about him and me, so you must think something's interesting about it. Care to share?
JTF, what is your opinion on Mr.Person?
I see you asked a lot of questions about me. Why was that?
Because I suspect you.
I thought that was obvious.
Do you read
anything in the thread?
Somehow, I don't believe you. It didn't even occur to you that Ottofar would probably vote Toaster? Were you shocked when he did? Why didn't you do more to Ottofar when he voted Toaster? You basically gave him a passive response (a free pass) rather than a hard Q&A session that would of helped out. Why didn't you grill Ottofar?
Somehow I didn't think you would. See? That's expectations at play. Since you're scum I expect that you'll take everything I do in the most negative manner possible, and never, ever take me at my word.
I didn't expect any particular outcome from the question. I asked it to see if Ottofar actually suspected Toaster. I guess he did.
Grilling Ottofar is nearly impossible because he posts once every three days. I've come to learn that I have to take what I can get from what he does post.
Would you rather Web posted like Org? I'll take WoT's over nothing, how about you?
Well, fuck, when you present the choice between two extremes, I'll obviously have to take the better one, right?
I hate how both of them post.
The fact we agree here and elsewhere about Janus (and to a lesser extend about Book) is kinda scary, but I'll chock it up to *gasp* not all my scumpicks being scum. I'm betting Janus over you since I don't think Web is scum. I highly encourage you to drop your attack on me and lynch Janus, but as you might imagine I'm a bit biased about why you should do that.
Ha ha, no. I don't like you peddling bullshit as scumhunting and I don't like JTF's lighthandedness on everything this game. If I switch my vote it's not because you asked me to.
Jim:
That's not something I thought about when I asked the question.
If that was on my mind when I did ask the question, I would have answered yes, I did expect it, but only because Ottofar is Ottofar.
Do you find it suspicious that he voted in reaction to your question? I'm guessing no, since he's not on your scum list. What was on your mind when you asked the question?
The vote itself, no. It was more the comment about not paying attention. But eh, Ottofar.
Ottofar FoSed you. I wanted to see if he'd be willing to turn that into a vote, because what the hell is he doing FoSing people when he's not voting anyone?
What's with the inquisition into my question to Ottofar? Sure, maybe one or two questions, fine, but it's starting to seem like you (and Mr.Person) are asking questions over and over in the hopes I'll say something which you can pounce on as evidence of my malicious intent with it.
What about the claim do you suspect?
Mostly what everybody else has said. I find two kooks unlikely.
I couldn't vote you for that even if I wanted to, so I'll have to look for something else.
@Everyone: Webadict also put in a vote to have extensions be 48 hours instead of 24. I'm fine either way, so if a lot of people want that I'll change how it works for future extensions.
I'd prefer it stay 24 hours. I don't like it when games drag on. Make your points, people.
PPE: Argh. Now it looks like a bandwagon...
Is that a problem for you?
Now, I'm going to go get breakfast lunch but if anyone gives me shit over lurking/activelurking between this post and my next I'm probably going to just ragequit the forum for the day and play some League of Legends instead of posting.
Well, fuck, why don't you hold your participation hostage over it.
I'm sure that's a great idea.
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