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[Drago55577]

the trader left everything behind and i took it

[Mister Always]

You didn't happen to deconstruct the depot while their stuff was still in it, did ya? 'cuz, that'll happen.

[Drago55577]

i did that
is that bad for reputation??and the trader left his stuff anyway

[Mister Always]

As I understand, they will still come back next year, but they won't bring as much stuff.

If you want to start war with the elves, seize their goods every time they come and eventually they'll get enough of it and start sending you wood in the form of arrows rather than logs. You can't do this with human caravans because they have guards which will probably not be too happy about it (as I recall, you don't even get the option to do it), and obviously you can't do this with the dwarven caravan. If you wanna start war with the humans to get their armour and weapons (humanite rather than goblinite?), construct a pit-trap with a bridge over it and drop them in when arrive. Remember - 10 z-levels enures splattering!

(By the way, seizing goods is not the same as deconstructing the depot. In the trade screen, select the stuff you want [booze, wood, maybe animals]. Then, as I recall, you have to press "s" and your dwarves will take their elven crap without so much as a pebble in return. This will make the caravan leave, mind, so make sure you grab it all in one go.)

Mister Always: Teaching you how to steal from the hippies since 2011.

[Stormcloudy]

You may deconstruct your depot at any time, including when Elven, Dwarven, Human, HFS, Goblin, Bugbear, Fluffy Wambler, etc. caravams are trading.

Dwarves don't mind. They just don't send much, and you obviously won't get many immigrants. The imported wealth skyrockets, though, so you will be likely to get thieves and ambushes at your (usually, since you just stole a whole caravan of people's wages for quite some time) most vulnerable times.

Also works to get Elves to send you animals, so I hear, but I hardly ever play long enough to even remember to screw with them. I'm usually busy with other stuff.

[Bererez]

There are several ways to steal from caravans. There is the way you've discovered and there is are the two methods that involve forbidding. You either forbid everything the caravans have when they spawn (they will drop all the stuff and move to your depot) or you can wait for them to drop everything off at the depot, forbid the depot and everything on it (your dwarfs will pick it up once you reclaim it).

[Oliolli]

Or simply lock the traders in the depot with some cleverly placed walls and doors. When they die of starvation/dehydration, you get all their stuff, including the guards weapons and armor.

[BuGGaTon]

Fluffy wambler caravans!!!  OH SNAP!!

[white_darkness]

Why wait for them to starve?  Drown them.

[Maklak]

I usually have enough trader trash to have no need to steal.

My only method of robbing caravans is take loot from whatever traders get killed by ambushes before making it inside my fortress. They obviously don't need all that stuff anyway, and the next caravan won't pick it up either. This still counts as stealing from caravan, but at least those annoying monkeys wont get phatz.

[Mister Always]

In my two forts, there's two ways I steal from caravans. Both relate to a dwarf "accidentally" throwing a lever...

One fort has a retracting bridge over a 13 z-level drop (was gonna be just 10, accidentally breached the caverns).

The other has a small twisty passageway lined with spike traps.

"I can't help but notice our traders were skewered last year."
"Aye...Urist McPeasant accidentally flipped th' spiketrap switch...twenty-eight times in a row."
"Fair enough."