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[Tarran]

I'll make one. And an AT laser versus an infantry powersuit. AT laser not likely to win.

Dude, let me explain it to you:

AT Laser can burn though what the future considers Heavy Armor.

It can melt a hole though many many inches of steel. And blast away shields in no time.

Nothing short of, oh, Tungsten can withstand a direct hit without a gigantic hole in it. And even Tungsten will melt like butter.

[Taricus]

That's if you hit.

[Tarran]

The Sol Laser can rake. It'll hit unless you can move as fast as a jet.

...It fires by shooting multiple--not a single--lasers, so it can also be raked for much less damage but at the same time being nearly impossible to dodge.

[Taricus]

Which reduces it's effectiveness. And you're assuming that the area is flat with no obsticles in the way. And these things MAY have jump-jets which makes the AT gunner's day worse.

[Tarran]

Which reduces it's effectiveness.

Only down to Decent.

And you're assuming that the area is flat with no obsticles in the way.

If there is, then both sides have cover anyway.

And these things MAY have jump-jets which makes the AT gunner's day worse.

Even if, lasers move at the speed of light. The only thing that makes them miss is the gunner's reaction time. And raking lessens that disadvantage greatly. Jump-jets will hardly save you from it.

[Taricus]

Remember though, lasers need time to do that damage, and as long as the suited infantryman moves faster than the AT gunner's hands he'll be fine. His chance comes in once the power cell for the laser runs out, and thus requiring a reload.

[Tarran]

Remember though, lasers need time to do that damage,

Yes, very little time.

and as long as the suited infantryman moves faster than the AT gunner's hands he'll be fine.

You'd have to have absolutely insane dexterity and reaction time to do that. You're trying to move yourself--a big hulking target in armor--faster than a man's hands. Swing your hands around, can you seriously go faster than half that?

His chance comes in once the power cell for the laser runs out, and thus requiring a reload.

He might be dead by then.

Though remember that you'll only have a small window before the AT gunner reloads. If he has any cover at all, you're not going to get to him in time.

[Taricus]

A fair bit of time actually. And the minute there's a smakescreeen between the two the infantryman has an advantage.

And I know that the armour would be pretty agile, if that part is being taken from ST.

[Tarran]

A fair bit of time actually.

This laser isn't the sort that takes several seconds to burn.

The laser fires several lasers in one-two seconds. That means each laser will have done it's damage in less than a half a second.

And the minute there's a smakescreeen between the two the infantryman has an advantage.

I wasn't arguing at that. Yes, he does, until the AT gunner reloads.

And I know that the armour would be pretty agile, if that part is being taken from ST.

Agile enough to move faster than a man can swing his hands? Especially at a distance where the man can rake a much wider area?

[Taricus]

In combat, actions take milliseconds. And we assumed that the armoured infantryman in unarmed. Armed is a different story. Rockets, MGs and flamethrowers we're talking about here. Can't fire the laser if you're dead.

[Tarran]

In combat, actions take milliseconds.

Movement--especially in armor--does not.

And we assumed that the armoured infantryman in unarmed.

Oh really?

His chance comes in once the power cell for the laser runs out, and thus requiring a reload.

He might be dead by then.

Though remember that you'll only have a small window before the AT gunner reloads. If he has any cover at all, you're not going to get to him in time.

And the minute there's a smakescreeen between the two the infantryman has an advantage.

I wasn't arguing at that. Yes, he does, until the AT gunner reloads.

Looks like to me we were assuming he had a weapon. I was assuming he had an assault-rifle of the sort.

Armed is a different story. Rockets, MGs and flamethrowers we're talking about here.

Nothing could. That's why you send them with backup, or equal armor.

And could you really accurately fire all that stuff while avoiding a laser?

Can't fire the laser if you're dead.

Same with moving the armor.

[Draignean]

I'll make one. And an AT laser versus an infantry powersuit. AT laser not likely to win.

Dude, let me explain it to you:

AT Laser can burn though what the future considers Heavy Armor.

It can melt a hole though many many inches of steel. And blast away shields in no time.

Nothing short of, oh, Tungsten can withstand a direct hit without a gigantic hole in it. And even Tungsten will melt like butter.

What is your obsession with Tungsten? It ain't that great as far as armor goes, too hard and heavy as hell. It's only good when you start alloying it.

Crystal based alloy, boil-off plating, energy fields, dispersive armor, composite high-ceramic plating (Fairly common that, even now.), prismatic countermeasures, etc can all be used to disrupt, block, divert, and otherwise screw-over laser weapons.

The suit isn't quite as agile as the ST suits, human par with much longer legs and boost jets.

[Taricus]

So they do have jumpjets?

[Tarran]

What is your obsession with Tungsten? It ain't that great as far as armor goes, too hard and heavy as hell. It's only good when you start alloying it.

I was just taking an example, dude, since it has the highest melting point of all the non-alloyed metals and the second highest of all the elements after carbon. It has nothing for my like of tungsten.

Crystal based alloy, boil-off plating, energy fields, dispersive armor, composite high-ceramic plating (Fairly common that, even now.), prismatic countermeasures, etc can all be used to disrupt, block, divert, and otherwise screw-over laser weapons.

Fair enough.

And how common are complex is suits of armor equipped with that around?

[Taricus]

I there's a reason we're only finding one suit.