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"Granting someone a second chance only means they get to screw up twice."

Strongly Agree
- 1 (2.9%)
Agree
- 0 (0%)
Neutral/Tossup
- 12 (35.3%)
Disagree
- 13 (38.2%)
Strongly Disagree
- 8 (23.5%)

Total Members Voted: 34


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Author Topic: Assessing Our Outlooks  (Read 9175 times)

CoughDrop

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Re: Assessing Our Outlooks
« Reply #150 on: February 11, 2011, 12:55:11 pm »

All of them would contribute about the same amount.

Each person contributing the same amount, or the sum of the patients' contributions to the same amount as the healthy person?
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Leafsnail

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« Reply #151 on: February 11, 2011, 01:08:17 pm »

Each person.  That's the point of this dilemna.
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« Reply #152 on: February 11, 2011, 01:34:46 pm »

If it's the same as blood types, then it could just be that the guy who walked in is double O negative (and is thus a universal donor).  If it isn't, then... I dunno, lol.

It's more complicated than that. It depends on the HLA genes. A more or less "perfect match" would be 6 out of 6. IIRC this number is relative as you can actually match for more (and, for that matter, I'm not sure right now as to which HLAs does the x out of 6 system match. I think it studies the major complexes for MHC I and II), but those six are the most relevant ones and useful for clinical practice.


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Earthquake Damage

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Re: Assessing Our Outlooks
« Reply #153 on: February 11, 2011, 01:35:34 pm »

It's nice to know we're a murderous, judgmental bunch.
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« Reply #154 on: February 11, 2011, 02:06:53 pm »

It's nice to know we're a murderous, judgmental bunch.

Welcome to humanity.
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« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2011, 02:23:27 pm »

It's because being ruthlessly utilitarian is the easy way to get through most of these questions.  It doesn't necessarily mean you could actually murder someone in real life in a similar situation.
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« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2011, 08:34:44 pm »

Are the 5 people strangers? 
Is the 1 person a stranger?
Do any of them know each other?

1 dies, the other 4 lives.  (If circumstances permit...)  One volunteer or eenie-meanie-minie-mo.

Seriously, you need ALL sorts of information to make a decision...  not just be given a small amount.  (At least in the case of being doctor.) 
That is, unless this has to be done 'now' and there is no other chance... (For some unknown reason that will not and cannot be explained.)
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Leafsnail

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« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2011, 08:37:45 pm »

The dying patients' organs aren't suitable for transplant.

It's not a medical decision.  It's a moral choice.
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Re: Assessing Our Outlooks
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2011, 08:51:04 pm »

Won't murder for organs: "First do no harm".  It's antithetical to the profession.
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« Reply #159 on: February 11, 2011, 08:55:27 pm »

Won't murder for organs: "First do no harm".  It's antithetical to the profession.

It also breeds distrust in the profession.  Hospitals aren't very useful if people avoid them due to rampant organ harvesting.
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« Reply #160 on: February 11, 2011, 08:56:17 pm »

Well that is boring, we will never get nuro implants if we don't throw a few live ones onto the alter of science and mess up the process! For the good of all human/robot hyrid kind, we need to rip apart more people.

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« Reply #161 on: February 11, 2011, 11:14:46 pm »

I just peeked in and saw this:

Won't murder for organs: "First do no harm".  It's antithetical to the profession.

It also breeds distrust in the profession.  Hospitals aren't very useful if people avoid them due to rampant organ harvesting.

What have I missed?
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Re: Assessing Our Outlooks
« Reply #162 on: February 11, 2011, 11:16:57 pm »

What have I missed?
People choosing to continue discussing a single topic instead of changing it, and going off on wild tangents. Just as planned.

Votes untill a new topic: 2
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CoughDrop

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« Reply #163 on: February 11, 2011, 11:23:58 pm »

Votin'
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« Reply #164 on: February 11, 2011, 11:24:43 pm »

Voted, throw something else up there.
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