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Yes

67 (62.6%)

Yes, but only if the amount you could own at any one time was limited

14 (13.1%)

Yes, but for Medicinal uses only

10 (9.3%)

Yes, but only for chronic illnesses(Cancer, AIDS, Crohn's Disease, etc.)

3 (2.8%)

No

13 (12.1%)

Total Members Voted: 107

[Aqizzar]

I'd just like to pop in and say something about the whole "lacing" business.  My father has been buying marijuana for nearly forty years, from some of the grungiest people I have ever met.  Not once in his life did he ever get anything that was "laced" with some harder drug, or if he did, he didn't realize it as such and by extension never got addicted to anything else.  In that span of time, he tried acid and cocaine, both on the recommendation of a regular dealer, and quit both of them after one or two tries.

The thing about buying drugs is, if you're buying from somebody you don't know, yeah you have no idea what you're buying.  That's why people who use drugs who don't become the one percent horror story establish a rapport with a constant dealer, or small number of sources, with the included silent acknowledgment that the person will know whose ass to kick if he buys something that screws him up.  There's an amazing about of old-fashioned homespun salesmanship in dealing drugs, and precisely because of the nature of the product, trust is a huge part of staying successful.  Not to mention alive.

[Max White]

Good to have that insite. Although if such a drug was legalised, one would think that any store bought amount would have to be 'clean', so to speek, what with regulatiton and all.

So I don't see how drug lacing has to do with this debate, beyond maybe acting as a preventitive measure. You can't enforce standards of quality on an illegal substance. A legal one, however, you can have a say over how 'pure' the substance should be, down to hacing chemists count the percent by mass, volume or moles how much of said drug contains the active ingredients, and what else is in there.

[Vector]

Just like baby formula, pork buns, and children's toys imported from China.

Yup, just like them.

[Max White]

Ok, so I know the story behind the baby formula (There was nothing wrong with the formular, just misleading advertisments that lead people to misuse the product) and I know about the childrens toys (The lead paint ones, right? Well there was a standard, just nobody paid attention that time) but what's with the pork buns?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I know that there's at least one method of lacing marijuana that can be lethal, that method being lacing it with, I kid you not, embalming fluids.

[Vector]

Cardboard.

Cardboard in pork buns.

[Max White]

Cardboard.

Cardboard in pork buns.

*Wikipedia*
I'm willing to say that the drugs industry is just slightly more heavly regulated then chinees street vendors.
EDIT: Wait, I must have the wrong artical. I should have finished reading that one, as in the end it was a media hoax, and there was no cardboard.

[Leafsnail]

Weren't you saying earlier that it shouldn't be turned over to the drugs industry?

[Max White]

Weren't you saying earlier that it shouldn't be turned over to the drugs industry?

That dosn't sound like me. Did I?

[Vector]

I'm just saying that the FDA is not as well-regulated as we'd like it to be (cf. colony collapse syndrome and so on), and I think it's perfectly reasonable to be a bit heeby-jeeby about things being laced with... things.

I'm not saying "don't legalize because it could be laced!"  Anything can be laced.  I guess I'm giving some kind of anti-smoking argument or something... who knows.  I'm really tired.

[Sir Pseudonymous]

Ok, so I know the story behind the baby formula (There was nothing wrong with the formular, just misleading advertisments that lead people to misuse the product)...

I thought the formula thing involved the factories using a type of rat poison as a sweetening agent in them? Melamine or something. Hmm... Yep, though I thought they'd also exported it, and found it in New Zealand or somesuch. It wasn't a sweetening agent though, it was used to make the protein content appear to meet the legal requirements when tested. Fucking rat poison.

But, as I assume pot wouldn't be imported from china, I can't imagine you'd get inane adulterants like motherfucking rat poison in it. Personally, I'd love to see the tobacco companies pick it up and sell it in gas stations and the like. Can't stand it myself, as it feels like what I imagine a hangover would feel like, if I got hangovers (burning face, nausea, head feels like it's full of steel wool? The closest I've come to a hangover felt kind of like that, only much milder), but it's the principle of the thing that matters. I want to see this idiotic prohibition shut down after decades of pointless atrocity, and I want to see it "corrupted" by the corporations that make the cheap cigarettes I smoke. The prohibitionists suffer the defeat they deserve, and the anti-corporate hippy stoners sell out for their weed. Sanity prevails, and all the insufferable ideologues on both sides suffer.

And before you say, "but people can just grow it at home if it was legal!" Would they still bother if they could buy twenty joints for $3-5 (most of which is tax these days), like one can cigarettes? People can grow their own food, too, or brew their own beer (legally even, in most places in the US, so long as it's less than a certain number of gallons per year, and they don't distill it), yet most don't. People are lazy, especially stoners.

[Zrk2]

I think marijuana should be legalized because it can only harm those using it. So, no driving high, just like no driving drunk. I think if the same types of laws were applied then we should be able to prevent it from becoming a massive problem, and we could make money to pay off the deficit.

[G-Flex]

Just like baby formula, pork buns, and children's toys imported from China.

Yup, just like them.

What's your point? That regulation isn't perfect, therefore it never helps?

Also, those are imports, things which aren't even particularly produced with respect to our own nation's standards or regulations (well, they ostensibly sort-of-are, but barely).

The relatively minor flaws of product regulation, especially as they apply to products imported from nations with much worse/less-enforced standards, is not an argument against the possible benefit of the legalization and regulation of something currently illegal, especially something that would almost certainly be produced in this country in greater proportion (compared to imports) were it legal.

[Vector]

I'm just saying that the FDA is not as well-regulated as we'd like it to be (cf. colony collapse syndrome and so on), and I think it's perfectly reasonable to be a bit heeby-jeeby about things being laced with... things.

I'm not saying "don't legalize because it could be laced!"  Anything can be laced.  I guess I'm giving some kind of anti-smoking argument or something... who knows.  I'm really tired.

See the "really tired" part.  I think I was just talking out of my ass at that point... sorry.

[Max White]

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/366284,research-nails-cannabis-schizophrenia-link.html

"The results of this study are conclusive and clarify previously conflicting evidence of a relationship between cannabis use and the earlier onset of a psychotic illness," Large said.