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[Girlinhat]

I'd love to add custom moods caused by actions.  Directly modding it to say "mood +50, right now" wouldn't be fun, but adding custom moods like "Urist enjoyed such-and-such" would open up a whole slew of things.

Apparently, you can request a pet as a regent, actually.  A reaction can have PET as regents, implying that the animal will be brought over to the workshop and used.  Adding [PRESERVE_REGENT] should suffice for milking, except that because it's hax it's not timed, and you can milk the same animal infinitely.

[Hungry Elephant]

One of the tokens makes them impossible to milk.  I think it's [CAN_SPEAK], but it's one of the ones rolled up into [INTELLIGENT]. 

As the early 31.01 experiments on milking male dwarves showed, however, you can have a caste of your own race that are milkable so long as they are not intelligent.

Also, you are a sick, twisted player for thinking about it.  No, don't ask me why I knew about the milking thing.

Answer: Hipocrisy!

Which was why I did it to the men - I felt too dirty trying to turn the women into "livestock" and then milking them, even just to experiment with how the whole system worked, so I did it to the men, instead, so that it would just be really, really bizzare instead of sexually perverse and misogynistic.

Doing it to men it's not good either. You have to consider what are you milking and what kind of "milk" are you generating. And do not even say that females like this kind of "milk" more than the standard milk and they use it to cover their faces with it in a sort of sexual make up hecstasy than generate good toughts...
well ok let's just drop it eh?

[Glacies]

Nobody was thinking it except you. It's milk. From mammary glands.

You'll have to make a custom reaction for that.

[Hungry Elephant]

Nobody was thinking it except you. It's milk. From mammary glands.

You'll have to make a custom reaction for that.

and I'm ashamed about that. But I never heard of male animals that produce milk.

[Sutremaine]

and I'm ashamed about that. But I never heard of male animals that produce milk.

It's possible with the right hormones, since all humans have the 'blueprints' to build all the ducts and glands and things. There was this one guy who was able to breastfeed his own kid (might not have been enough to do it full-time though) by taking prolactin, and it worked out okay since his testosterone level was naturally low enough.

[Doc_LaKock]

This thread turned into a furfest quickly.
Makes an old heart ashamed...

[EBannion]

Nobody was thinking it except you. It's milk. From mammary glands.

You'll have to make a custom reaction for that.

and I'm ashamed about that. But I never heard of male animals that produce milk.

The major reason why male humans don't lactate (well, there are two):

1. Hormones (easy to fix)
2. Regular Use (if you've got the milk production started via hormones, you have to actually get the milk out every once in a while or it'll stop being produced.)

After all, the tissues and glands in a male mammal's mammaries are basically the same as a female's, only underdeveloped in a fixable way.

[NW_Kohaku]

This thread turned into a furfest quickly.
Makes an old heart ashamed...

That's OK, I apparently "fixed" it by making it about milking men...  Wait, I'm confused, does "fix" mean "make better" or "make worse" again?

[Sutremaine]

This is DF. There is no better or worse, only different.

[BigD145]

Just edited up some quick cat stuff:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Cat Ears:
[ITEM_HELM:CAT_EARS]
[PREPLURAL:pair of]
[NAME:cat ears:cat ears]
[LAYER:OVER]
[COVERAGE:10]
[LAYER_SIZE:5]
[LAYER_PERMIT:15]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[SOFT]
[LEATHER]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]


Paw Gloves:
[ITEM_GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES]
[PREPLURAL:pair of]
[NAME:Paw Gloves:Paw Gloves]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]
[LAYER:over]
[COVERAGE:100]
[LAYER_SIZE:10]
[LAYER_PERMIT:10]
[SOFT]
[LEATHER]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]


Cat Tail:
[ITEM_PANTS:ITEM_TAIL]
[NAME:Tail:Tails]
[LAYER:OVER]
[COVERAGE:10]
[LAYER_SIZE:10]
[LAYER_PERMIT:30]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[SOFT]
[LEATHER]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]

Maid stuff, too...

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Main Dress:
[ITEM_ARMOR:ITEM_DRESS_MAID_DRESS]
[NAME:Maid Dress:Maid Dresses]
[UBSTEP:MAX]
[LBSTEP:MAX]
[LAYER:UNDER]
[COVERAGE:90]
[LAYER_SIZE:10]
[LAYER_PERMIT:50]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]
[SOFT]
[LEATHER]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]


Stockings:
[ITEM_SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_STOCKINGS]
[PREPLURAL:pairs of]
[NAME:stockings:stockings]
[LAYER:UNDER]
[COVERAGE:100]
[LAYER_SIZE:10]
[LAYER_PERMIT:15]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[SOFT]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]


hair bow:
[ITEM_HELM:ITEM_HELM_BOW_MAID]
[NAME:bow:bows]
[LAYER:OVER]
[COVERAGE:50]
[LAYER_SIZE:10]
[LAYER_PERMIT:100]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]
[SOFT]
[LEATHER]
[STRUCTURAL_ELASTICITY_WOVEN_THREAD]

Actually, I should edit them to give male dwarves pleasant thoughts when they're around them.

Has this been added to SLADE? http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=67002.0

[Girlinhat]

About male milking; being an avidly active GLBT member with several transsexual friends, I can assure you that pretty much any animal with nipples, if given estrogen, will grow breasts.  Actual milk production requires the stimulation of other hormones related to pregnancy specifically.  Some men with low testosterone counts can even undergo "sympathetic pregnancy" if exposed to enough pregnant women, without the use of injected hormones.

The more you know!

[BigD145]

About male milking; being an avidly active GLBT member with several transsexual friends, I can assure you that pretty much any animal with nipples, if given estrogen, will grow breasts.  Actual milk production requires the stimulation of other hormones related to pregnancy specifically.  Some men with low testosterone counts can even undergo "sympathetic pregnancy" if exposed to enough pregnant women, without the use of injected hormones.

The more you know!

Alcohol drives estrogen levels up....

........

[Sutremaine]

Some men with low testosterone counts can even undergo "sympathetic pregnancy" if exposed to enough pregnant women, without the use of injected hormones.

How so?

[Uristocrat]

So, anyone had luck with these guys?  Are they worth the effort?  They seem weaker in combat than an actual tiger, get uppity and thirsty, and waste my corpse stockpile.

I don't know about being "worth it" ... my lone tigerwoman hasn't gained any skills (her one judge of intent skill has gone rusty) and doesn't seem likely to run for mayor any time soon, but she likes to hang out in my zoo for whatever reason.

Anyhow, they need meat and water (but not from a well).  Dig a one-tile ditch somewhere inside the fortress and designate it as a pond zone.  So long as you have buckets and a water source, it should be enough to keep them satisfied.  You can make it bigger if you have any need to.

As for the meat, just butcher kittens from your cage full of cats every so often (or any other animal) if your meat supply runs low.  I get more than enough from traders that I never worry about it.

[malimbar04]

Some men with low testosterone counts can even undergo "sympathetic pregnancy" if exposed to enough pregnant women, without the use of injected hormones.

How so?

We don't know exactly, but it has to do with empathy. It work's in a similar way to saying "ow" when you see a girl hit herself in the hand with a hammer. For some reason they mimick the hormone conditions of pregnant women. Then they get all the standard symptoms of pregnant women (hot flashes, mood swings, munchies, a big belly, and so forth). The only difference is that there is no baby.

Sometimes girls can get the same thing by the way, if there is enough emotional pressure to become pregnant they can have a fake pregnancy without any fetus.