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[sluissa]

There is nothing more awesome looking than full Havel armor and dual wielding Havel shields... it's absolutely useless, but still amazing to see nonetheless. Some say a man's home is his castle... Havel misunderstood... Havel is his own castle.

[timferius]

Ok, several more questions.
A) how does the matchmaking work? Im barely in the game, maybe bought two or three levels when i first hit firelink. Anyway, ive not found anything to replace my starting gear, just past the Taraus demon. And i get invaded by guys with all this gear.
B) how am i being hit by a club at a distance? Is it a glitch? Or am i missing something?

[sluissa]

If you're talking PVP, it's not immune to lag... I often get affected by... what those of us old guys from the early-ish days of Team Fortress 2 might call a face stab. That is, getting back stabbed from the front due to lag or glitches or other silliness. Otherwise, I can only think of maybe one or two enemies with clubs which might have slightly off hit boxes on their weapons, but if you're only at the Taurus demon boss, you shouldn't have encountered them yet and they're not all that hard to deal with if you just learn to leave a little more extra room than you might seem to need.
Also a boss or two do have area/ranged attacks that are triggered with a swing of a melee weapon, but it's pretty obvious what's happening when it's happening.

As for being attacked early on by people with awesome equipment, there are bugs that allow you to do that on your own... but if you can get a friend to help (not all that easy with the summoning mechanics) then you can trade items between characters, potentially giving a low level character very nice weapons.

Sometimes you also just get unlucky and have to fight someone 15 levels higher than you.

[Aptus]

Well poop I just realised I have wasted a few points on dex that I didn't need to. I decided to look up a wiki for how the upgrade system actually works and from everything I can tell lightning weapons blow normals out of the water in just about every respect. This means I could have stopped at 15 for the winged spear and just held out until I could get the lightning enchant. Now I am sitting on 22 since I was going to go for the silver knight spear and pumping dex for it. From what I can understand I will be doing a ton more damage with 15 dex lightning winged spear than I would with a 50 dex silver knight spear.

Bah, ah well first character is first character I guess :p

[lordcooper]

Well that was weird.  Started a new game as a pyromancer and got invaded at SL1.  I'm in newb gear and wielding a winged spear, they drop a +5 lightning spear and +5 chainmail set, back off while I equip it all and than get their ass kicked by me.  Running around one shotting everything, it somehow feels like I lost.

[Sordid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP3aj_f2djE

[PrimusRibbus]

Well that was weird.  Started a new game as a pyromancer and got invaded at SL1.  I'm in newb gear and wielding a winged spear, they drop a +5 lightning spear and +5 chainmail set, back off while I equip it all and than get their ass kicked by me.  Running around one shotting everything, it somehow feels like I lost.

One thing I love about the DS community is that you never know what's going to happen when you do multiplayer. They're truly strange and unpredictable.

I'm particularly fond of naked invaders that proceed to have an unarmed brawl with you. It's just not what you were expecting when you were preparing for that dungeon.

[sluissa]

I really love the respectful ones that invade you, but if you happen to be in the middle of a fight, they let you finish off anything you've aggroed and heal up, bow politely, wait for you to bow, and then you have a nice little duel... I've never survived one of those, but it really did feel nice anyway.

[majikero]

Word from the wise, lightning weapons are weaker at late game. In terms of raw numbers it looks good on paper but when it comes down to it, it hits both the normal defense and the lightning defense.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, fire weapons also give the same damage with no stat scaling and can be reached earlier if you know what your doing.

[Lectorog]

What, then, is the best weapon upgrade path? I've heard the most that it's lightning. I know that different damage types are better for different for different creatures, but what's the best overall?

[majikero]

Normal upgrade is the best overall. With 40 stats on it's scaling stat, it will equal those maxed out elemental weapons. Then you can buff the thing for maximum damage.

[lordcooper]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, fire weapons also give the same damage with no stat scaling and can be reached earlier if you know what your doing.

Incorrect.  Fire weapons actually cause (an extremely slightly) higher amount of damage than lightning weapons when fully upgraded, but being able to get to +10 rather than +5 means it takes longer to reach that potential.

What, then, is the best weapon upgrade path? I've heard the most that it's lightning. I know that different damage types are better for different for different creatures, but what's the best overall?

It depends entirely on equipment, playstyle and your opponent.  There really is no ultimately 'best' upgrade path or weapon.

[Cthulhu]

Uuurgh, I might actually have to summon somebody on my low level dickwraith challenge.  I'm still SL11, now I'm on the last spoiler before I can become a dickwraith.  I'm not sure I can do this one without help.

Worse, the idiosyncrasies of this fight means apparently a lot of white phantoms won't even survive to the fight.

[majikero]

Did you manage to unlock the NPC summon there? If not, that's gonna be a real pain.

[Cthulhu]

I forgot about her.  Will she still show up if I unlock her and come back, or would I have to have done that before fighting them for the first time?

I was gonna start a new guy and do a regular game, no sequence breaking or shenanigans, staying human as often as possible, but two burg invasions by pyromancers with bleed clubs has me mad.  I want revenge now, I have to get dickwraith.