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[Tarran]

Agreed. The Gun Runners are pretty useful.

If only there were Ship Runners.

[Paul]

Hehe, if the game had a way of regulating the inventory of ships (right now all you can do is add them, can't check to see whats there or remove them) I could make their station keep one of every hull type in stock.

Can't do that with the tools available though. Best I could do is just add one of every ship every so often, but that would just end up with a bazillion ships in the station after a while.

[Tarran]

At the very least, can you increase the spawn rate of low-tech ships? As it stands, high tech ships quickly outnumber outdated ships. Or at least, it did in .5a. I haven't tested .51a yet.

[Paul]

It's reversed in 0.51a. Alex has three stations now - Pirate, Tri-Tachyon, and Hegemony.

Hegemony convoys come every 13 days (assuming the fleet in-system made it in and out in that time, otherwise it would skip a spawn) and deliver from 0-4 ships. Each ship has a 40% chance of being a full size ship and a 60% chance of being a fighter wing. They bring in the low tech ships.

Spoiler: Hegemony ship list (click to show/hide)

ships:
wolf_Hull,
hound_Hull,
shuttle_Hull,
lasher_Hull,
brawler_Hull,
vigilance_Hull,
dram_Hull,
hammerhead_Hull,
sunder_Hull,
condor_Hull,
enforcer_Hull,
buffalo_Hull,
gemini_Hull,
buffalo2_Hull,
falcon_Hull,
eagle_Hull,
venture_Hull,
dominator_Hull,
onslaught_Hull,
atlas_Hull,
conquest_Hull,

fighters:
broadsword_wing,
gladius_wing,
talon_wing,
dagger_wing,
piranha_wing,
mining_drone_wing

Pirates come in every 17 days, and they bring in low tech ships similar to the Hegemony but with a smaller selection, and they have two more fighter types than the Hegemony (Thunder and Warthog). They're also 0-4 ships per trip, with 40% chance of being a ship instead of fighters.

Spoiler: Pirate Ship List (click to show/hide)

Ships:
wolf_Hull,
hound_Hull,
lasher_Hull,
vigilance_Hull,
dram_Hull,
hammerhead_Hull,
condor_Hull,
enforcer_Hull,
buffalo_Hull,
buffalo2_Hull,
venture_Hull,
dominator_Hull,
conquest_Hull,

Fighters:
broadsword_wing,
gladius_wing,
warthog_wing,
thunder_wing,
talon_wing,
piranha_wing,
mining_drone_wing

The only source of high tech ships is the Tri-Tachyon station. They're set to only bring 0-1 ships per trip, and only have the top ships and fighters (same 40% chance of it being a ship, 60% fighter).

Spoiler: Tri-Tachyon ships (click to show/hide)

ships:
wolf_Hull,
tempest_Hull,
buffalo_Hull,
medusa_Hull,
aurora_Hull,
odyssey_Hull,
paragon_Hull,

fighters:
xyphos_wing,
thunder_wing,
wasp_wing,

Although, thinking about it, I realize the thing to get the random number for ships is set up like this:
(int) (Math.random() * 4f)

I'm not overly familiar with Java (or programming at all, for that matter), but would actually end up being from 0 to 3, since random can't be 1? Or does it round integers instead of truncating them?

And then the TT one is
(int) (Math.random())

If it's automatically rounding the integer I guess that would be about a 50% chance of having a ship, but if it truncates them it would simply be 0 all the time and never send any ships... I don't know enough about it to tell either way

[alexm]

It's 0 to 3, and you're right, the TT one ends up with 0 (not intended!). Casting to int always rounds down.

Fun fact: if you do (int)((float) Math.random() * 4), you actually end up with 0 to 4 - with 4 being extremely rare, when the double cast  to float from random's return value produces a 1 - since *that* cast rounds to the closest float value.


Oh, also - just released a hotfix that fixes a crash bug from clicking on an empty inventory slot at any station or loot screen.

[Paul]

It's 0 to 3, and you're right, the TT one ends up with 0 (not intended!). Casting to int always rounds down.

Fun fact: if you do (int)((float) Math.random() * 4), you actually end up with 0 to 4 - with 4 being extremely rare, when the double cast  to float from random's return value produces a 1 - since *that* cast rounds to the closest float value.


Oh, also - just released a hotfix that fixes a crash bug from clicking on an empty inventory slot at any station or loot screen.

Ha, guess I accidentally found an error in your core mod then. Too bad I didn't report it before the hotfix

[alexm]

Yep. Thank you for pointing it out now, though

[Flying Dice]

Oooh, update. Might find time between DF and Aurora to play another game. Nice to see that cap ships got a boost to speed as well; half the reason I was doing the surrender trick is because being in an armoured space-blimp was boring as all get-out if you didn't have Tachyon Lances.

[Aklyon]

Playing as an Oort-class certainly wasn't though, because while that thing was slow as the asteroids, it could take a crapton of pounding.

[inteuniso]

Are you sure pirates should have access to a conquest-class battlecruiser? :p

[Tarran]

What, u jelly?

[Criptfeind]

So I just got into the biggest fight I have been in yet and I realized I bit off a bit more then I could chew without losing more then I would gain, so I start retreating.

Apparently the other guys thought the same thing since they also started retreating, they had faster ships then me, so they got out first.

So this happened:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

GG Corvus system.

Really though. What?

[forsaken1111]

Yeah really, I don't understand or like how often retreating ships surrender. Especially capital ships. I could understand a destroyer or stranded fighter wing but if an undamaged capital ship makes it to retreat why would it just heave-to and allow boarders?

[alexm]

I think the surrendered ships were uncrewed - that's the only way that could have happened. Otherwise, retreating ships only get captured if they're fairly damaged.

But that doesn't explain why you were losing that fight - there's not enough enemy ships without the uncrewed ones.

Hmm - actually, this may be due to a bug with the crewing algorithm. Sometimes stuff gets marked "uncrewed" when it shouldn't be (now fixed, in dev build).

[Flying Dice]

Heh. Looks like we get to enjoy that particular 'feature' a bit longer.