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Free Internet Front
« on: January 31, 2011, 03:50:25 am »

As the actions of the former Egyptian government show, it is all to easy for governments to simply shut down communications in and out of a country. Even following this, we see many western governments putting into motion plans to "secure" the internet against external (and, naturally, internal) threats. These take the form of internet kill switches in the US and government-backed eavesdropping in Sweden. Then there is the greed and avarice of the telecom companies themselves. The oligarchy charges outrageous prices, secure in the fact that no-one else can enter the business because it's impossible to buy the land, infrastructure, and right-of-way needed to set up a new telecommunications system.

For these reasons, it's obvious that a new system is needed. We need a network that is secure, free, and, well, free in the other sense too.

I believe that it is possible to make this a reality. This is Wireless Mesh Networking.

WMN works by using nodes which communicate to one another to send information along the network, using wifi or similar signals. There is no central point; all participants are equal peers, and your ability to connect to the network is limited only by the hardware you invest in. Security is paradoxically quite high; every packet is entirely anonymous, knowing only it's destination, and encrypted to the point of impenetrability.

The network is used to run a peer-to-peer http service. You can create a website and publish it, and it will be propagated around the network. There are technical difficulties in this, particularly in sharing updates and searching for content, but these are not impossible to overcome.

There are drawbacks to this network:
First; ping is severely increased at long distance, as not only must the signal travel each hop from node to node, but it must also pass through each node's routing system. However, pings between close points, such as neighboring houses, may be somewhat faster, as it wouldn't need to travel to a third party and back. That aside, it is an unavoidable fact that this would ping slower.
Second; bandwidth could be low, depending on the number of nearby nodes and the available paths from A to B. Good pathing code could actually give quite good bandwidth by sending packets along several parallel routes. This issue goes away as the mesh gets denser.
Third; long, empty regions without good places for nodes are serious barriers. We could build a network stretching from New York to Miami, but getting from London to France would be nearly impossible. Luckily, we are not restricted to purely wifi connections alone. It could be possible to connect over internet packet radio between isolated sections to create truly global networks that are completely independent and free. It would also be possible to use existing internet connections between separated networks. Failing that, we could simply rely on geographically isolated networks that are only updated intermittently.

My vision is simple: You can take an off-the-shelf router, install some new firmware on it and get a special browser on your computer, and find yourself connected to the new internet- for free, free from snooping and blackouts, and free to make full use of it without paying anyone.
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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 03:57:06 am »

That sounds most interesting.
Although what is the range of wifi? If there is a gap too large between a city and the next sub network, then that city could be limited to local information.

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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 04:00:15 am »

Yes, that's the third issue. My idea is that by using things besides wifi, we can bridge that gap. This could be anything from pirate wire to internet packet radio.
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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 04:01:20 am »

But can I still find and download porn?

That is all I want to know.  :-\
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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 04:02:12 am »

The organization already has a bad ass acronym to go with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxE_oQBwrdU
« Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 04:03:50 am by nenjin »
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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 04:02:49 am »

Yes, that's the third issue. My idea is that by using things besides wifi, we can bridge that gap. This could be anything from pirate wire to internet packet radio.
This reminds me some what of collage radio stations. Although if were pirating phone lines then I guess this eould be one of those 'underground' things.

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 04:04:37 am »

This seems like a good idea but I think we have to realise that without a type of high-speed wifi (in the gigabits) this project is unfeasable.
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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 04:07:25 am »

I've worked with wireless mesh networking before. It works (at least for most of my pears, damn program wouldn't run on my laptop), but package loss skyrockets if a bunch of people have overlapping transmission radii, which means you're not going to get the same quality of service you're used to from such a network without coordinating things a bit. Then again, that was a completely unorganized mesh and it's routing protocol was probably not stellar either.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 04:13:30 am »

Well perhaps if we implemented some sort of 'smart network' rather then random and brutal transfers. So, for example, because we are transfering bits for free now, when your not using your bandwidth for anything intensive, your computer would volenteer itself to act as a server and take care of all the busyer computers around it.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 04:31:48 am »

Sort of completely unrelated, but efforts to work around the top-heavy control of DNS and domain registration is also interesting in a free internet perspective:

This one seems to be furthest along:
http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 04:52:39 am »

The consume network was pretty much doing this, although as far as I know the project is dead (nothing on their mailing lists since about 2003).

For long distance hops between node clusters it's fairly easy for a few people to setup very cheap directional transmitters which have a shockingly long range as long as you have line of sight. But probably the line of sight will be an issue and other system would need to be used.

Also don't forget that unless major sites were willing to have their own nodes you'd still require internet access at some point to hop from the mesh to the web and so someone will be paying.

Sort of completely unrelated, but efforts to work around the top-heavy control of DNS and domain registration is also interesting in a free internet perspective:

This one seems to be furthest along:
http://dot-p2p.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

They want to build a decentralised DNS and yet they currently state that they think an centralised authority is the way to go. This going to have similar problems to the current system if you ask me. Not that is an easy problem to solve in the first place.
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Re: Free Internet Front
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 05:02:10 am »

Just, in theory, how feasable is it to hijack the phone lines for interstate/interconternental communications. It is possible? Is it reliable? It is safe?

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 05:07:35 am »

Just, in theory, how feasable is it to hijack the phone lines for interstate/interconternental communications. It is possible? Is it reliable? It is safe?

Yes.
Only if you keep changing how you do it, to keep ahead of what flaws get fixed.
Probably not in the long run.
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 05:13:06 am »

So it is possible. We could do it.
It is not reliable. It would not work forever.
It is safe? We would not get caught...

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 05:22:26 am »

So it is possible. We could do it.

Yes.

It is not reliable. It would not work forever.

It would be a constant battle of flaws against fixes. I doubt 'they' will ever reach a level were there is no way it, but its possibly for them to do it beyond the talent of anyone involved in the project.

It is safe? We would not get caught...

We would eventually, the scope you'd need to do it on and the sheer amount of load from the meshes would mean your going to get noticed.
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