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[Samrobot]

I don't really care

[thegoatgod_pan]

I like clowns, because by imaging demons as horrid sadistic clowns is somehow satisfying. "Cotton candy" is going too far.

[OddProphet]

I think that referring to them as clowns (and the circus motif in general) contributes to the comedic sociopathy that we have become so enamored with.  It's more entertaining to read about someone gorging themselves on cotton candy before getting their bellies split open by Barnum & Bailey anyway.

Also I can make ICP puns.

"WELCOME TO THE DARK CARNIVAL, BROTHER!"
"hooooonk."

[Jingles]

Like it's a big deal to put spoiler tags on things.  Select and click, takes one second, maybe less  The point is they give the option to the person who doesn't like to know spoilers unlike rudely spewing it all out into a post.

[rephikul]

Like it's a big deal to put spoiler tags on things.  Select and click, takes one second, maybe less  The point is they give the option to the person who doesn't like to know spoilers unlike rudely spewing it all out into a post.

ya like it's totally a secret considering demons show up in dwarf's preferences & stockpiles and adamantines also appear in z-stone menu.

[Jingles]

ya like it's totally a secret considering demons show up in dwarf's preferences & stockpiles and adamantines also appear in z-stone menu.

Of course one unknown choice among many in obscure menus and dwarf preferences really blows the secret for a noob.   Seriously if you figure it out in game how is that a spoiler?  That'd be like saying you figured out a movie before the end because of foreshadowing is a spoiler.

The point is by not using tags which are not at all inconvenient to look at or do, you are in effect making a choice for them because you believe you know better then them how they ought to enjoy the game.  I don't see how having the slightest bit of etiquette would cramp anyones style.

[LoSboccacc]

I support spoiler tag if allow us to get rid of the silly name masquerading.

at least, spoilering stuff allow the search button to do its thing.

what I'm supposed to search to know how

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adamantine stuff

works?

there are at least four name for it used at random!

[Sutremaine]

ya like it's totally a secret considering demons show up in dwarf's preferences & stockpiles and adamantines also appear in z-stone menu.

So do griffons. Plus, how many new players are going to go through the stone list and say 'gasp! There is one solitary stone on this list whose name and use I do not recognise! Why, it can only be a material forged by the gods themselves to hold back the horrors of the deep! I'ma go hit it with my -copper pick- anyway.'

[anqxyr]

• I knew about clowns before I started playing DF. I think many players did. It's pretty hard to describe to someone why he should try the game. Usually you end up telling them stories about glorious death of your last fort. This stories often include clowns. Also, Oilfurnace.
• I love clowns and cotton candy euphemisms. I think they add to the atmosphere of this forum and should be used instead of spoilers. Other euphemisms, on the other hand, not so widespread to begin with, and interfere with the search. Don't use them.
• Usage of the spoilers on wiki is perfect. The fact that there is a hell deep under your fortress is not that big of a spoiler. Someone on this forum once said, that anyone who read LotR should assume this immediately after hearing game's concept anyway. But the way how hell and demons work, where adamantine is located and how to dig trough semi-molten rock is all very big spoilers. This things rarely described here, but the wiki description of them is quite thorough. The way spoiler warning is used on wiki ensures that no one would read this stuff accidentally. On the forums ^{(wait. should they be called forums or forum? I'm confused)} someone could click on the spoiler tag thinking that there is a picture and automatically read spoiler text before realizing that he shouldn't.
• All images, diagrams and ansi schemes should be put under spoilers. There are no exceptions. Also, if your text is more then two screens long, you should consider putting it under (multiple) spoiler(s) too.
• I think I'm obsessed with making lists from everything I say. I will go seek professional help now.

[Tokkius]

I would rather deal with spoiler tags than these ridiculous fan names. I prefer to go about the game with a serious attitude, and they ruin the atmosphere for me. I mean, use them if you want, that's your business. Just making my opinion known.

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Cue whining about differing motivations for playing Dwarf Fortress. C'mon. You know it's going to happen. "What, you can't enjoy DF that way! It's a comedy game! How dare you!? Waaah!"

[Starver]

...^{(wait. should they be called forums or forum? I'm confused)}...

Plural?  A commonly used alternative to Forums is Fora.  Which is actually correct (unlike Virii for Viruses), although it's not very obvious.  I think I've seen the term "Porna and Fora" used (c.f. "Fauna and Flora"), but its tetraglyphic nature makes it easy to mistake for a typo (mostly by omission) of various other words.  Compare also with "Data", which is a multiplicity of individual Datum points, and thus shouldn't really be used as a singular, even though it's often treated[0] as a mass noun.  "A single piece of data" works, of course, just as "a single grain of desert" might.  (Pedant's Curse ahoy, me hearties!  I'm sure there's something to pick up on, ye scurvy dogs...)


But that's just an aside.  I really wanted to say that I wasn't considering the SpoilerTag vs CottonCandyWords in my prior post, didn't actually realise that was point of this thread, and must have missed the progenitor conversations.  I don't mind either method of obfuscation, FWIW.  And you can even put CottonCandyWords in SpoilerTags.

Plus, when it comes to *spoilering*, the intro movie to DF very much does that on its own, I suppose [1] even down to the colour of the rock.  So just like people can mistake ambushes for Sieges, before they actually encounter a siege and realise their error, there's always room for people who have been happy to read even quite explicit stuff about the Clowns (especially what I called the "Podium" inside the "Big Top") to be surprised when they actually encounter The Real Thing instead of merely (nowadays) FBs.

• In the local vernacular, "tret".  For what it's worth.
[1] Although I must admit that I originally interpreted it as digging into something like a magmatube, perhaps with pressurised gas in its heights, so that when it was punctured, up came the flame[2]...  I also interpreted everyone's dismissiveness about Microcline to be due to finding its colour unpleasant/unrocklike, and/or being a generic target for the "You have struck <Rockname>" zooms which would (at that time) frequently disturb one's micromanagement mining and force one to lock back on to the other miners who you were trying to get to dig out some other vital part of the fortress or vein of ore  But I was an innocent, back then.  (To reiterate: acknowledging that neither option is to everyone's taste, I have no personal preference and find both satisfactory.)

[2] Dwarfs being hardy enough to survive a superheated, probably noxious, magma-gas blast innaface.  Hey, it's fantasy, and we all know we don't (currently) have to worry about actual ventilation, barring the likes of miasma and FB vapours.