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Author Topic: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread  (Read 48064 times)

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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #165 on: September 14, 2012, 05:38:18 pm »

"Give me a tech or I'll crush you like a bug"
Me (looking at the overwhelming force on my border): "OK"
"Give me *another* tech or I'll crush you like a bug"
Me: "Oh ****! OK"
"Sucker! I'll crush you anyway!"

The first time Miriam did this to me I was actually impressed. Annoyed, but impressed.

The expansion was fun, but I get the impression it was not as well thought out. Wasn't there a bug where the spy specialist faction could get their spying so high that it hit an overflow bug and caused every mission to auto-fail?
Ahhnn, Miriam. I love (crushing) that crazy bitch. She generally is one of my most dependable allies (after I crush her and make her capitulate completely and permanently). :P
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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #166 on: September 14, 2012, 06:19:08 pm »

The Xpac factions were either exagerated versions of old factions
Drones - Yang
Prophet - Elves
Cyborgs - University

Old factions with some twist

Pirates - Spartans

Mary sues.

Aliens

Or a actually original faction for a change.

Data angels - Morganites

Sorry, I have to disagree with you there, especially since most strategy guides I've read on Morganites basically go: "Probe Team AWAY!"

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« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2012, 07:03:43 pm »

Sorry, I have to disagree with you there, especially since most strategy guides I've read on Morganites basically go: "Probe Team AWAY!"

Yeah but Sure they can probe team everything and everyone but their general theme and and talents lie in generating stupid ammounts of money/energy and they don't get a probing bonus. Sure thay can fund extra probing due to the ammount of energy they get but it's like saying Santiago is a good researcher because she can stomp Zakharov and force him into giving her tech.
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« Reply #168 on: September 14, 2012, 07:31:43 pm »

Ahhnn, Miriam. I love (crushing) that crazy bitch. She generally is one of my most dependable allies (after I crush her and make her capitulate completely and permanently). :P

Oh god yes, if you manage to get her to submit while still having a nice few bases all you have to do is give her tech and she will produce swarms of cutting edge armies, it's a good thing that once they are submissive they stay that way (unless you probe team them or buster em). The only problem then is trying to get her to use them on your enemies. I couldn't get her to stop fighting Yang even though he was another pact brother of mine and in the end she destroyed him and I was like "meh, now please attack the damn Morgans!"
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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #169 on: September 14, 2012, 11:33:00 pm »

So I had a nice little LAN game with my room mate last night. I was University while he was Gaia. It was a random medium map.
It had been ages since I've played and I had completely forgot how to play, not to mention the different techs and units.

Spoiler because it's pretty much a tome.
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« Reply #170 on: September 15, 2012, 12:11:46 am »

At the point you were at, you should have just used the nukes without trying to repeal the charter, especially at the end there. If after the first time, he knew you were going to wait for a repeal before using them, you should have just done it without waiting. Simply demanded your vassals bases to weaken them, set up hovertanks/rover/helicopter squads to fan out and capture everything when/if they turn, then launched them and wiped your room mate off the face of the map.
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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #171 on: September 15, 2012, 12:44:22 am »

Yeah I considered that but I was trying to play the good guy so it was an even greater victory over my room mate. As a rule I generally avoid launching nukes/unconventional weapons in games unless everyone has agreed to use them. Just an odd quirk I've developed.
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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #172 on: September 15, 2012, 01:31:19 am »

I think using nukes and playing the good guys are incompatable.   :P

I think your roommate was wrong to let you build up that supply of nukes.  From what I gather, waiting out University is a losing proposition.

Good job though.  It was a nice read.

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« Reply #173 on: September 15, 2012, 01:50:36 am »

Cheers for reading it. I've edited it since there was a whole bunch of spelling and grammar mistakes. I was waiting for FTL to download when I started writing it and I was really excited to start playing so I rushed the writing a little.

As for why my room mate decided not to attack me when I was building up my nukes I really don't know. I suppose he knew that it was going to be a very long battle and he'd rather go out in thermonuclear blaze. He also assumed I was only building the one nuke but I changed some focuses from minor wonders to nukes/rushing which I guess took him by surprise. He could in theory easily survive two or three nukes and still have a decent army which he could try and out-tactic me with, although it wouldn't be a pretty war.

I'm going to try and see if we can start up another game sometime over the weekend. I think we'll go into an alliance from the start and turn on alliance victory and bump up the AI strength. Having two human players always looking for a chance to stab each other in the back really slows down the game. If it's an interesting match I might write up a little story again.  :)

EDIT: I might beg him to go Sparta and allow me to play as the Pirates. That should be an interesting little alliance.
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« Reply #174 on: September 15, 2012, 05:45:39 am »

What is surprising is that as Gaiain he didn't get Planetery Governer. Getting that election is game winning for all the power it brings you. Gaian's are normally the number one contender unless UN has decent start with their double voting powers.

Never trade comlinks unless you are sure you are going to win it, it's really not worth the paltry amount of credits offered.

Still has given me a hunger to play multiplayer but PBE isn't fun and my roommates aren't interested in Alpha Centauri, the barbarians!
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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #175 on: September 15, 2012, 10:35:53 am »

I think using nukes and playing the good guys are incompatable.   :P


Somebody obviously never fought against ghandi then.

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« Reply #176 on: September 17, 2012, 05:08:59 am »

So here's an interesting little question. If you had to pick one of the [old] factions to live/toil in which would it be?

I suppose the obvious would be the U.N. since they're often the most democratic but they're also often the first ones to be scrapped off the map. 

University would be the one I would lean towards the most since as a responsibly educated man a society where knowledge and learning are the most important aspect of life is appealing. Not to mention some of the no-doubt amazing things Planet has to offer would make my inner Biologist scream in joy. Firing some missiles at the Fundies from the comfort of my concrete bunker is also appealing.

Gaia sounds interesting mostly because they're really just a personfied Gaia Hypothesis. I've always liked the Gaia Hypothesis, it's not something I've ever believed but it's rather nice on a "romantic" level. Not having my mind imploded by worms every few days would be a nice advantage even if I have to go and live in some trees like a common Elf.

Doubt I would fit in all that well with the Spartans either, not being all that much of military man. I've always seen the Spartans more like their historical counter-part as a federation of military clans loosely united under one tribal despot rather than the modern "romantic militarism" of the Napoleon period and later. I've seen both sides debated though and the Spartans haven't quite been as "pinned down" as the rest of the factions.

The less said about the Belivers the better.

Doubt I could enjoy the Hive or Morganites at all. Either dystopian Capitalism/Communism is my idea of hell on Earth Planet. Although if I had to choose I guess I would go for Morgan since there's the chance he might go a little democratic while Yang is crazy all the time.
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« Reply #177 on: September 17, 2012, 06:13:00 am »

ptw.
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« Reply #178 on: September 17, 2012, 06:29:14 am »

University - Mad scientists that have little to no morals.
I assume living there as a non researcher would probably mean you run the risk of being abducted mutated fed with fungus and dissected.
They don't get those extra pissed drones for nothing.

Gaia - Elves... sadly in this case they are right. Probably one of the safest factions to be in.

Morgan - They seem to be a extension of the curent world order and a supplier of goods people just want and are used to.
If any faction made MMO games soap and ramen it'd be the Morganites the remnant of the 20's (as year 2020).
Most likely a decent place to live by planetary (crapsack) standards.

UN - Humanitarian faction. They might not have a lot to offer but whoever you are you will most likely be treated humanely... at least for Alpha Centauri standards. I'd say same as morganites.

Spartaaaaaaaaa - North Korea redux.

Believers - I'd call them religious nutcases but they are actually onto something in here. The tech progressing in this game becomes increasingly creepy to the point even i feel distaste. The cloning vats are a great example especially if you know the inner workings of the machine in the video.
The machine in the cinematic seperates females from males.
The females are grown to lay more eggs while males get thrown away and minced alive and used as feed.

Hive - A well working faction but not something a present day human would want to consider living in. Unless you'd like to get a partial lobotomy and being turned into human cattle.
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Re: The Alpha Centauri (SMAC/SMAX) thread
« Reply #179 on: September 17, 2012, 09:59:30 am »

I love playing as the Drones, socialist all the way!
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