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[Bigboss9509]

I dont know the controls for going down a level to be able to get a farm there and all that but what button should i push to get down a level i know i have to build stairs and all that and i found < and shift+< is taking me down and up but my stairs wont work on that is < taking me more then 1 level down or what? D: i rly need help :S

[Illanair]

On the top level put a down stair, then in all levels in between put Up/Down stairs, and then an up stair at the bottom (or just another Up/Down stair so you can expand down further)

[Uristisdying]

Could you clarify your question? Do you want to know how to change z-levels, or do you want to know how to build up- and downstairs?

[Silophant]

To clarify Illanair's response, a stair has two parts, an up and a down. It sounds like you're building the down stair all right, but you then need to build an up stair on the level below.

[plisskin]

To dig downwards, hit "d" and choose either "down stairs" or "up/down stairs." Select the area you want to be stairs, try a 3x3 square of them. Then hit Shift-> to go down one level, hit "d" again and create another 3x3 square of "up stairs" or "up/down stairs" exactly below where you dug before.

Oh yeah and nice forum handle .

[OddProphet]

I suppose this place is as good as any for an unusual question.

Playing a vanilla install of 40d (2010 military continues to confound me), I found an excellent embark.  Plenty of flux, woods, unicorns, etc.  I built a trade depot and awaited profit, but I found that the entire map was wagon-proofed.  Wagons could not even enter the area.  I had a couple of dedicated woodcutters smack mother nature around to clear some space, but it did not help.  Any advice?

[sdrawkcabcM tsirU]

I suppose this place is as good as any for an unusual question.

Playing a vanilla install of 40d (2010 military continues to confound me), I found an excellent embark.  Plenty of flux, woods, unicorns, etc.  I built a trade depot and awaited profit, but I found that the entire map was wagon-proofed.  Wagons could not even enter the area.  I had a couple of dedicated woodcutters smack mother nature around to clear some space, but it did not help.  Any advice?

I have never encountered it, but I have heard that boulders will cause impassable conditions for wagons. Supposedly smoothing them will allow passage, but I couldn't even tell you where I read this.

As for the OP, yes, you need to designate either up/down or up stairs to be dug underneath the upper tile of stairs in order for them to serve any purpose. The down staircase you built/designated just allows passage through the floor (or ceiling of the lower) layer of that tile. If the area below/above said square happens to already have been dug out, stairs must be constructed.

This page describes the process in a bit more detail if you scroll down to the "Digging down, down, down" section: http://afteractionreporter.com/2009/02/10/the-complete-and-utter-newby-tutorial-for-dwarf-fortress-part-2-no-srsly-wtf/

[G-Flex]

I suppose this place is as good as any for an unusual question.

Playing a vanilla install of 40d (2010 military continues to confound me), I found an excellent embark.  Plenty of flux, woods, unicorns, etc.  I built a trade depot and awaited profit, but I found that the entire map was wagon-proofed.  Wagons could not even enter the area.  I had a couple of dedicated woodcutters smack mother nature around to clear some space, but it did not help.  Any advice?

I have never encountered it, but I have heard that boulders will cause impassable conditions for wagons. Supposedly smoothing them will allow passage, but I couldn't even tell you where I read this.

Clarifying that this is true. Boulders will block wagons, and "smoothing" them as you would a floor will turn them into floor tiles.

It helps to build a road to the edge of the map eventually, so you don't have to keep culling the trees.

[Bigboss9509]

Could you clarify your question? Do you want to know how to change z-levels, or do you want to know how to build up- and downstairs?

Well my problem is that i build a downstair and press < to and build a up and downstair there but my retarded dwarfs wont mine it out 

[sdrawkcabcM tsirU]

If you are doing this from the build menu, this is going about it the wrong way. Build is used when you have empty space that you want to put something in. If the space is not empty, how can a dwarf build something in it?

What you have to do is designate either an up/down staircase or a up staircase to be dug out. Think of it like being a sculptor. A sculptor doesn't build statues, he just removes all of his medium that isn't a statue. So designating a staircase in the rock or dirt asks a dwarf to remove any material that isn't a staircase.

[mr. macduggan]

I think your problem is you think that an up/down is a whole flight of stairs. Instead, it goes halfway up and halfway down from the level you put it on. You still need to either put another up/down beneath it, or an up. Otherwise you get a staircase that ends 5 feet above the ground, though it does make it through the ceiling.
just do it this way-


down stair
up stair


or alternately


down stair
up/down stair x however many you want
up stair

[Bigboss9509]

I think your problem is you think that an up/down is a whole flight of stairs. Instead, it goes halfway up and halfway down from the level you put it on. You still need to either put another up/down beneath it, or an up. Otherwise you get a staircase that ends 5 feet above the ground, though it does make it through the ceiling.
just do it this way-


down stair
up stair

I learned what i did wrong now my porblem was that instead of going down i went up D: so my down stair was on lets say level 2 and my up and down stair on lvl 1 thats why it didt work. Thanks for the help ^^


or alternately


down stair
up/down stair x however many you want
up stair

[Mini]

Could you clarify your question? Do you want to know how to change z-levels, or do you want to know how to build up- and downstairs?

Well my problem is that i build a downstair and press < to and build a up and downstair there but my retarded dwarfs wont mine it out 

If I'm reading this right, you are building a down stair and then moving your view in the up direction. You need to press > to go down.