This is like saying that in Ireland the English "fought to defend their citizens" while the IRA fought "to enforce their ideology". If you think that taking that position means viewing this as a complicated conflict, then you're just wrong.
I admit to not have extensive knowledge of the IRA and the british, so i can't reply to that, although, i am pretty sure the IRA never wanted to take ALL england.
Regardless, what i meant is that since there are different motives for fighting, it makes life slightly more complicated than - fighters are evil!11!1.
And a country that must defend itself against a religious ideology that base itself around the aspiration to eradicate that country and place a corrupted, tyrannic, religious, dictatorship instead, has far more legitimacy than that religious ideology. and make no mistake, this is Hamas, this is the Islamic Jihad, this is ISIS, this is Al qaeda.
And they are already inside europe and have already began aspiring for a caliphate in europe and if you think that's just islamophobia or fear mongering, i have sad news for you, its a well documented reality.
And that's why restricting radical islamists from reaching Syria/Iraq/Yemen/Libya is so important. because the problem is not what happens when they are there, it what will happen when they come back fully trained and battle experienced. and we have already seen glimpses of it in paris and brussels.
I'm not contradicting myself. There are two different discussions taking place simultaneously here. One is about Israel/Palestine, the other is about westerners going overseas to wage Jihad.
ISIS and Al Qaeda are not who we're discussing. we're discussing Hamas. Hamas is attempting to further the interests of the Palestinian people, at least in part. There's also a lot of politicking and furthering of individual interests, but that's par for the course in these matters. The leadership of Israel is doing much he same thing in dragging the whole affair out.
You were replying about my remark concering the "westerners" that going overseas to wage jihad.
And please, hamas is not attempting to further the interests of the palestinian people. it is only concerned in keeping its political power and establishing a caliphate on the entirety of israel.
anti-semitism is a bit of a flawed term, by the by
you know jews being a mixed bag that is actually only in a tiny bit semitic
when i first heard the term i thought somebody wanted to kill random syrians or whatev
While it is indeed a flawed term, its popular usage meaning is well established.