Offensive tunnels against israel, that is. ones the blockade has nothing to do with and ones that were dug even while morsi allowed almost free passage in the rafah crossing.
How do you know which tunnels are "offensive"?
That's pretty easy. they are the ones going onto israel territory.
Are you acknowledging here that we should not be holding Hamas and Israel to the same moral standards?
How on earth did you manage to twist it into that? what i said is that hamas can't really be trusted to last long in power or have the means of enforcing a policy on the other groups in gaza so israel can't really lay down its arms completely.
The results are good if, and only if, you do not regard Palestinians as human beings.
Oh no, you made a mistake here. i regard palestinians as human beings, its hamas that sees them as a vehicle for propaganda and shields for its operatives.
Oh, yeah, that's a point I wanted to raise too. It's ridiculous to claim they're deliberately targeting schools when something like 70% of their missiles can't even hit a city. Doesn't mean throwing rockets in the general direction of population centers is a nice thing to do of course.
You do realize hamas has several types of missiles, right? some of them are VERY accurate.
And btw, BECAUSE of the fact some of their missiles cant be aimed correctly, firing them is considered an international war crime in itself.
Of course the west banks is better than Gaza. But are you seriously telling me than the best Palestinian should hope for is to live under constant occupation and checkpoints? Israel doesn't want peace with an independent Palestine. Why would they? Right now, they have mostly peace, all the settlements they can get, a nice buffer zone between them and Jordan...
No, they can hope for MUCH more. all they need to do is to acknowledge israel right to existence and stop attempting to kill israeli civilians, something which even Fatah still refuse to do.
Are you seriously trying to maintain that there is no terror operation in the west bank? like, seriously?
Do you really think israel needs or wants the west bank settlements other than means of preventing a greenhouse for terrorism?
They are a horrible burden on our economy! Nope, the second every palestinian will throw down their guns and acknowledge israel right to exist as a jewish state, israel would get the hell out of the settlements. just like we did in gaza and its profitable agricultural advancements and just like how we gave up sinai and the EXTREMELY profitable suez canal along with it.
Tell me, please, why should israel give up important defensive measures like the checkpoints and buffer zones in exchange for nothing? we did it in Gaza and Hamas, a self proclaimed anti israel/anti semitic terror organization took the government (don't fool yourself thinking it was elected. it was elected just like Assad was).
You are talking about carrots and sticks, but we HAVE given the carrot! and all we got was a big stick to our face immediately after.
Also, because ISIS and Al-qaeda can easily infiltrate jordan and already have, sadly israel could never give up an important very small buffer to the jordanian border. jordan will either go the syrian way or the iraqi way in the not so distant future. i would hate to see it happens, but i have been there more than once and spoken to the population imposing as italian/spanish. it is bubbling from the inside and now that its external threats are so prominent, i can't see a bright future for it.
And yeah, I missed that article. Care to link to it again? I'm not sure how to find it in the thread.
http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/1.2377942
I doubt however that isael doesn't do anything sbout the smuggling.
That's because they are also smuggling rockets.
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