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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 376580 times)

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3945 on: April 27, 2013, 12:38:53 am »

Russian television has been reporting about the use of chemical weapons since March, long before any Western news reports. According to Russian news reports, the Syrian rebels use chemical weapons (homemade chloride gas and Sarin, which is supplied by Turkey) against civilians. There are several Russian journalists in Syria (some of them are attached to Syrian Army units), which interview civilians, doctors, army officers. They all state that rebels fire artillery shells loaded with chemical weapons at civilian areas controlled by the government forces.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3946 on: April 27, 2013, 12:47:20 am »

I'm going to go ahead and say the Russian news reports are less than reliable.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3947 on: April 27, 2013, 01:16:10 am »

I'm going to go ahead and say the Russian news reports are less than reliable.
Western television broadcasts news reports based on reports by Syrian opposition organizations, which doesn't make them more credible than Russian news reports.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3948 on: April 27, 2013, 01:32:43 am »

I'm going to go ahead and say the Russian news reports are less than reliable.
Western television broadcasts news reports based on reports by Syrian opposition organizations, which doesn't make them more credible than Russian news reports.
I didn't say Western TV was reliable. I said Russian TV is not reliable, which is reasonable given the connections between Russia's government and al-Asad.

The really reliable stuff is the videos of the actual conflict, uncommented. Next step up from that is amateur and independent reporters, who mostly lack government bias.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3949 on: April 27, 2013, 02:20:03 am »

I don't trust anyone in that conflict and think that Syria needs a permanent peacekeeping force instead of a goverment.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3950 on: April 27, 2013, 05:00:34 am »

I'm going to go ahead and say the Russian news reports are less than reliable.
Western television broadcasts news reports based on reports by Syrian opposition organizations, which doesn't make them more credible than Russian news reports.
I didn't say Western TV was reliable. I said Russian TV is not reliable, which is reasonable given the connections between Russia's government and al-Asad.

The really reliable stuff is the videos of the actual conflict, uncommented. Next step up from that is amateur and independent reporters, who mostly lack government bias.
All "independent" reporters, whose footage can be seen on Western television are affiliated with the Syrian rebels in one way or another.
There is an information war going on, there are no unbiased sources.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3951 on: April 27, 2013, 06:27:29 am »

By "Russian news reports" what broadcasters are you referring to?
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« Reply #3952 on: April 27, 2013, 07:36:33 am »

By "Russian news reports" what broadcasters are you referring to?
Russian channels that broadcast inside Russia, such as Channel One Russia and Rossiya-1.
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« Reply #3953 on: April 27, 2013, 07:43:08 am »

The only unbiased truth you'll get is by going there, and that's not particularly safe.

Unbiased truth cannot be acquired, as humans are biased themselves and will apply said bias to what they see first-hand. You gotta roll with what you're given, compare, contrast, and make your own conclusions.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3954 on: April 27, 2013, 10:13:47 am »

Do we have any Russians on these boards? I'd like to hear more about how the population see's the state.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3955 on: April 27, 2013, 11:01:31 am »

This isn't the thread, Novel.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3956 on: April 27, 2013, 01:34:34 pm »

Good point. Edit: Let me rephrase that to how they see their governments stances in instances such as this. Is it high on the list of grievances or is seen as an irrelevant bit of foreign policy? Does it affect the governments actions at all?

I'll dig up an older thread on necromancy, see the stances on it, and if then permissible dig or up or make a thread on Russia in general.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3957 on: April 27, 2013, 01:40:21 pm »

The few Newspapers that exist and are run by civilians are generally balanced. Though they are hard to get access to.
I'm going to go ahead and say the Russian news reports are less than reliable.
Western television broadcasts news reports based on reports by Syrian opposition organizations, which doesn't make them more credible than Russian news reports.
Yes and No. They do take a bigger slice of info from the rebels, but many will include what the government says as well.

In short, it's pretty hard to believe anyone.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3958 on: May 04, 2013, 10:17:05 pm »

Huge fucking explosion in Damascus.

Assad's Government is saying Israel is responsible, but then again, they'd probably say that no matter what.
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« Reply #3959 on: May 04, 2013, 10:22:27 pm »

AS always, first thigns first, what it hit?


Appears to be either a munitions dump, or research facility.


Second, who did it?


Possibly rebels, or Isreal. Depends on contents thereof.
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