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[Askot Bokbondeler]

yeah, what would you call that?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That doesn't qualify as eugenics. You can't get a eugenic effect from temporary involuntary sterilization. Eventually it will wear off and they'll have children if they want them. It is wrong, but it is not eugenics. It would only be eugenics if the contraceptive shot was permanent.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

it was temporary because they were caught. what were they trying to accomplish if not reducing the reproduction rate of a racial group?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

There is no evidence to suggest that they were planning to make it anything but temporary. The article is not 100% clear on what they were trying to accomplish. I'm guessing these Ethiopian Jews were planning to go to Israel since they were under the authority of Israeli medical staff, which would suggest that they were trying to keep them from reproducing during the transit period.

The idea that they were trying to exterminate the Ethiopian Jews is kind of silly, since that would require going into all such communities in a foreign nation and keep them on the drugs for the entirety of their reproductive lives against their will. A lot of work, in defiance of a foreign government, and for what? To keep black Jews from ever coming to Israel? Doubtful.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

theres the fact that they managed to reduce the birth rate of ethiopian jews by 50 percent in the last 10 years? i think that points to what they were trying to acomplish.
and by ethiopian jews we mean the beta israel comunity, of ethiopian origin, they weren't actually living in ethiopia

[Nadaka]

Newsflash, this isn't the only way that Israel has committed ethnic cleansing in recent history.

[PanH]

Newsflash, this isn't the only way that Israel has committed ethnic cleansing in recent history.

I always found the actions of Isreal kinda ironic.

[Zangi]

How long does the contraceptive stuff Israel used last anyways?  1 year?  Less?  More?

[PanH]

How long does the contraceptive stuff Israel used last anyways?  1 year?  Less?  More?

Yeah, a year after the last injection (aproximatively). Taken every 3 months.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

How long does the contraceptive stuff Israel used last anyways?  1 year?  Less?  More?

Yeah, a year after the last injection (aproximatively). Taken every 3 months.

I'm not seeing anything on that. As far as I can tell it lasts 3 months and then rapidly declines, with pregnancy being reasonably possible only a week into the fourth month.

[Owlbread]

Even if it doesn't qualify as eugenics per se I don't think we can deny that it is really, really horrible and of all the people in the world who should know better, it should be the Jews of Israel.

[Zangi]

How long does the contraceptive stuff Israel used last anyways?  1 year?  Less?  More?

Yeah, a year after the last injection (aproximatively). Taken every 3 months.

I'm not seeing anything on that. As far as I can tell it lasts 3 months and then rapidly declines, with pregnancy being reasonably possible only a week into the fourth month.

So it lasts roughly 3 months, but lingering effects/reduced fertility may last up to a year.
Another question related to this... how long did they keep up the injections?  Cause from the article, it clearly doesn't seem to be a 1 month or even a 1 year thing...
I suppose that would really answer if Israel was actually doing eugenics or not...

Even if it doesn't qualify as eugenics per-say I don't think we can deny that it is really, really horrible and of all the people in the world who should know better, it should be the Jews of Israel.

Considering it, the heads of the organization can think very differently from the body... 
But... who knows, some people would say being complacent is just as bad...

[PanH]

How long does the contraceptive stuff Israel used last anyways?  1 year?  Less?  More?

Yeah, a year after the last injection (aproximatively). Taken every 3 months.

I'm not seeing anything on that. As far as I can tell it lasts 3 months and then rapidly declines, with pregnancy being reasonably possible only a week into the fourth month.

If it's Depo-Provera, then, the return to fertility is from 10 (average) to 18 months after the last injection.

[olemars]

Ahmadinejad volunteers to be first Iranian in space.

Bon voyage, I say.

[GlyphGryph]

I've seen other sources say the injections were voluntary and with consent, and that many of the women desired them and continue to take them. And also that they weren't even handled by the government, but by an aid agency.

So I don't really know what the status is on that front any more. At the very least it seems there could have been some serious communications issues and a few heavy handed folk involved with the process, but I'm no sure the nefariousness is government sanctioned, if you will.