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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 377470 times)

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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3330 on: November 19, 2012, 03:12:37 pm »

Coincidentally, this is why you will never be US president.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3331 on: November 19, 2012, 03:13:44 pm »

Coincidentally, this is why you will never be US president.

:) one of the many reasons.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3332 on: November 19, 2012, 03:21:09 pm »

Actually disproportionate response might be the only solution - but no one's got the guts to go through with it.
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« Reply #3333 on: November 19, 2012, 04:34:58 pm »

I thought disproportionate response was the official Israeli policy?
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« Reply #3334 on: November 19, 2012, 04:37:13 pm »

Believe it or not, but "desperate measures" are actually almost always a terrible idea.

Anyway, I'm just waiting for it to show up on the newsfeed that: "HAMAS ACCIDENTALLY DESTROYS DOME OF THE ROCK WITH UNGUIDED ROCKET" now. I can only imagine how that would be responded to. An Islamist group accidentally destroying one of the oldest and most important Mosques in the world while trying to fight what they see as an enemy of Islam. It would be an irony world record.
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« Reply #3335 on: November 19, 2012, 05:03:04 pm »

I thought disproportionate response was the official Israeli policy?
I mean disproportionest response, towards the Arabs as well as towards Israel:
"You fire a rocket? We occupy your territory and relocate everyone who's living there five miles to the west south, just to disrupt smuggling."
"You assasinate a Palestinian leader? We discontinue all military aid and move away from you diplomatically, leaving you with a bunch of unfriendly neighbors and quite a big problem right on your doorstep."
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« Reply #3336 on: November 19, 2012, 05:07:24 pm »

The Palestinians are already getting massively disproportionate responses from Israel.
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« Reply #3337 on: November 19, 2012, 05:26:26 pm »

The Palestinians are already getting massively disproportionate responses from Israel.

Well they didn't bring their main gun to bear yet.


Also from what i hear Israel has nukes.

Guess the middle east is on its way to being renamed to "glassbowl".
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« Reply #3338 on: November 19, 2012, 05:32:25 pm »

They are not ethnically cleansing the Palestinians from Gaza for the purpose of killing Palestinians. They are ethnically cleansing the Palestinians from Gaza in order make room for them to take Gaza. Nuking them defeats that purpose.
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« Reply #3339 on: November 19, 2012, 05:44:17 pm »

They are not ethnically cleansing Gaza.

If they were, there'd be way fewer problems.
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« Reply #3340 on: November 19, 2012, 05:46:39 pm »

They are not ethnically cleansing the Palestinians from Gaza for the purpose of killing Palestinians. They are ethnically cleansing the Palestinians from Gaza in order make room for them to take Gaza. Nuking them defeats that purpose.

Yeah but Iran is getting it done so a game of subcontinental atomic tenis is not out of the question.
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« Reply #3341 on: November 19, 2012, 05:49:44 pm »

They are not ethnically cleansing Gaza.

If they were, there'd be way fewer problems.

Yes they are. They are just trying to be subtle about it.

Ethnic Cleansing is the forcible removal of a people. This counts bulldozing their villiages in order to build suburban enclaves for jewish settles as much as it includes shoveling them into mass graves.
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« Reply #3342 on: November 20, 2012, 08:53:56 am »

Not really. They're not trying to empty Gaza, they're pursuing a strategy of putting enough pressure on it that the population will expel Hamas. Surprisingly, it's not working.
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Re: Egypt and the world and Libya
« Reply #3343 on: November 20, 2012, 09:07:03 am »

Not really. They're not trying to empty Gaza, they're pursuing a strategy of putting enough pressure on it that the population will expel Hamas. Surprisingly, it's not working.
Civilians killed by Israeli air strikes only add credibility to Hamas propaganda.
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« Reply #3344 on: November 20, 2012, 09:18:40 am »

You got my point.
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