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Author Topic: Egypt and the world and Libya - Now without Ukraine!  (Read 372417 times)

Alexhans

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1710 on: March 18, 2011, 09:10:26 pm »

Nadaka, What great powers would be pitted against each other and for what interests?  Technology is also really different.
I really wish one of the western nations would just man up and send a 'dirty job' team to clean this crap up.
Well i meant only kafadaffi, and you know, since it would be done in secret it would just end up with a dead tyrant and a demoralized military
You do realize that sending an assassin or group of assassins would qualify as state sponsored terrorism, do you?

Not everything is easily solved just by applying violence.  And, as we have proved time and time again, it's difficult to focus violence to a particular key point.  I think we've all watched too many movies and played to many videogames where the solution is:  Just kill it.

EDIT: Unforgivable spelling mistakes....

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1711 on: March 18, 2011, 09:25:08 pm »

I'm not entirely sure how assassination of a high profile political figure to remove them from power could be considered terrorism, honestly. It's got nothing to do with fear or intimidation or threats or anything terrorism related. It has to do with eliminating an enemy threat.

It's most definitely an act of war, of course, and assassinating leaders of nations is both difficult and frowned upon as a general rule by those who could be considered leaders of nations, but that doesn't justify calling it terrorism.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1712 on: March 18, 2011, 10:09:04 pm »

I'm not entirely sure how assassination of a high profile political figure to remove them from power could be considered terrorism, honestly. It's got nothing to do with fear or intimidation or threats or anything terrorism related. It has to do with eliminating an enemy threat.

It's most definitely an act of war, of course, and assassinating leaders of nations is both difficult and frowned upon as a general rule by those who could be considered leaders of nations, but that doesn't justify calling it terrorism.
Ok, make that Iran eliminating Obama as a threat to world peace.  Specially for Afghanistan and Iraq (or even themselves). 

I know it's hard to think from a different mindset when you feel one of those acts is justified or at least, agree with the end result but it's about the same thing. 

Qaddafi's violent crackdown on some of it's citizens makes it entirely different? What about Myanmar, Russia in Chechnya and now some other Arab Countries?

For something to be an act of war, shouldn't war be declared?

I'm not saying Black or White but I'm just trying to debate the issue here from different perspectives and see what people think.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1713 on: March 18, 2011, 10:13:29 pm »

Thank you for being a voice of reason and civility, Alexhans!
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1714 on: March 19, 2011, 12:05:03 am »

Assassination is not terrorism. Terrorism is targeted at the people, to make them lean on the government to stop something. Assassination is more direct than that.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1715 on: March 19, 2011, 12:54:43 am »

Assassination is a tool that can be used for terrorism.

God, why am I posting here.  I will have to look at updates in my thread list whenever I check it, along with the horrible Happy Thread.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1716 on: March 19, 2011, 01:00:40 am »

Assassination is a tool that can be used for terrorism.

God, why am I posting here.  I will have to look at updates in my thread list whenever I check it, along with the horrible Happy Thread.

This has been, in the past, a worthwhile thread. At least I thought so.
I have nowhere near as many regrets about posting in this one, as I did about the late "Atheist" thread. *shudder*
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1717 on: March 19, 2011, 01:05:02 am »

you think that's bad?

I posted in the thread that's IRC roleplay brought to the forums.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1718 on: March 19, 2011, 02:00:52 am »

I really, really do wish I could unsubscribe from my "new replies to your posts" list.

Still like this thread though.
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1719 on: March 19, 2011, 02:09:49 am »

A friend on Facebook said that Benghazi is being bombed, but I don't have a source on it.  Anyone else have more information?
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1720 on: March 19, 2011, 03:07:46 am »

Italian news reported that benghazi is being bombed. I don't know any more.

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1721 on: March 19, 2011, 04:26:21 am »

Cnn just showed a jet get shot down over bengazi, it was taken out by the rebels,  nato has yet to show up
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« Reply #1722 on: March 19, 2011, 05:44:39 am »

I thought it was a rebel jet that got shot down?
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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1723 on: March 19, 2011, 06:02:04 am »

Seems so, although all reporting from the ground is a mess at the moment. At least looks like the pilot managed to eject.

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Re: Egypt and the world
« Reply #1724 on: March 19, 2011, 07:49:57 am »

Looks it. Hope the chute works, that's far too close to the ground for comfort.
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